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86 Landcrusier turbo diesel shorty

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:59 am
by RN
Friend just took delivery of a 86 Landcrusier turbo diesel shorty a few days ago.

Paid 7.5K, body in vey good condition. Only complaint so far is that it has drums all round. What would you suggest would be the easiest way to do a disc conversion?

RN

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:22 pm
by beanz2
I had no idea turbo diesel shorties came with drums up front. Some 75 series do, but I thought a bundy always had discs.

I suppose you can get a disc brake swivel housings from a 40 or a 60 and swap them in.

Dave

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:48 pm
by dumbdunce
"bundys" are all disk front, but not all shortys are bundys.

what is the history of this truck? almost all landcruisers were disk front after the late '70's!

what engine/gearbox/axle combination does it have?

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:18 pm
by beanz2
Hi Brian,
What I mean to imply was that there were no turbo diesel shorties in 1986 other than the LJ70. They were called the Bundera, right? There was a turbo diesel MWB, the BJ74.

Dave

1986 shorty landcruiser

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:01 pm
by RN
Hi all, I have no idea about Toyotas..but no where on his vehicle does it say Bundera...definitley a Lancruiser and the thing that ennoys him the most is the lack of stopping power. Drums all round and power assisted. It is a 4 cycl diesel turbo with a removeable back roof and barn doors, Looks like a troopy in the front. 5 speed manual,.RN

Re: 1986 shorty landcruiser

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:08 pm
by dumbdunce
RoadNazi wrote:Hi all, I have no idea about Toyotas..but no where on his vehicle does it say Bundera...definitley a Lancruiser and the thing that ennoys him the most is the lack of stopping power. Drums all round and power assisted. It is a 4 cycl diesel turbo with a removeable back roof and barn doors, Looks like a troopy in the front. 5 speed manual,.RN


is it a 2.4 litre with factory turbo or a 3.4 litre with an aftermarket turbo? - as Dave has suggested the shorties did not come with the 3.4 turbo from the factory. does it have coil suspension or leaf springs? are you absolutely certain of the drums all round?? if it was a local market 'cruiser from '86 then it should have a disk brake front.

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:16 pm
by gogo
Is it LJ70? They never came with 5speed box, so thats aftermarket. They did come with 2.4L Turbo diesel engine. Your front brakes should be disc and the rear drum (as factory). To convert fron to disc, you just need LJ70 front discs axle. Rear no point.

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:23 pm
by dumbdunce
gogo wrote:Is it LJ70? They never came with 5speed box, so thats aftermarket. They did come with 2.4L Turbo diesel engine. Your front brakes should be disc and the rear drum (as factory). To convert fron to disc, you just need LJ70 front discs axle. Rear no point.


hmm of the dozens of LJ70s I have seen all have had 5 speeds...

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:54 am
by beanz2
Agree with Brian here, all 86-89 turbo diesel shorties come with 5 speed manuals. Some n.a. LJ70's come with 4 speeds but they were not Aus. market vehicles.

RoadNazi, when you said it looks like a troopie but shorter, is it the current troopie or the older 45 series? Are the rear barn doors symmetrical or is one side wider than the other? My guess is your mate has a pre-1985 40 series with a turbo added or a turbo diesel donk fitted.

Dave

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:07 pm
by gogo
I am not in Aussie actually. Where I am all LJ70's were 4 speed from factory. 2LT's were available, also 4 speed. Ok different country, different spec.

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:34 pm
by dumbdunce
gogo wrote:I am not in Aussie actually. Where I am all LJ70's were 4 speed from factory. 2LT's were available, also 4 speed. Ok different country, different spec.


ah well then it all makes sense. you are presumably in SE Asia somewhere? Malaysia, Indonesia? It would help if you stated your location in your sig or your profile!

so what you have is an LJ70. you can get everything you need to convert the front to disks from a hilux of similar vintage - get everything from the swivel knuckle all the way out to the locking hub. might be worth picking up the master cylinder too - might be different. should all bolt together.

cheers

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:47 pm
by beanz2
gogo wrote:I am not in Aussie actually. Where I am all LJ70's were 4 speed from factory. 2LT's were available, also 4 speed. Ok different country, different spec.


Are you sure? AFAIK no 2L-T powered LJ70's were sold with 4 speed regardless of market spec.

Dave

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:53 pm
by dumbdunce
beanz2 wrote:
gogo wrote:I am not in Aussie actually. Where I am all LJ70's were 4 speed from factory. 2LT's were available, also 4 speed. Ok different country, different spec.


Are you sure? AFAIK no 2L-T powered LJ70's were sold with 4 speed regardless of market spec.

Dave


could still be aftermarket turbo. or maybe there is some mud blocking the 5th gear mechanism ;)

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:05 pm
by beanz2
LOL

:D :D :D

86 shorty

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:29 pm
by RN
Not sure what motor he has but he reckons it is not a biggy...whatever that means.

I will get back to him and get the most accurate of info.

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:41 pm
by gogo
beanz2 wrote:
gogo wrote:I am not in Aussie actually. Where I am all LJ70's were 4 speed from factory. 2LT's were available, also 4 speed. Ok different country, different spec.


Are you sure? AFAIK no 2L-T powered LJ70's were sold with 4 speed regardless of market spec.

Dave


All LJ70's sold in Malaysia were fitted with 4speed boxes and availabe with either 2L or 2L-T engines. Most who converted to 5speed used the kit or put 5speed boxes from LC2 LWB. I own one!! Just fitted 5speed box from an LC2.

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:52 pm
by frp88
I have a mwb cruiser it's knowen as an frp top.It has an 13bt 3.4l turbo factory.It's got discs in the front and drums in the rear.As far as I know they all have 75 running gear. :D

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:30 pm
by Syzygy
BJ71's have the 13B-T

Unsure where they were released though