Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Just wondering what are they worth and how hard to install in a GQ wagon?
Where can you get em in Melb?

Thanks for your help.

Paul

I'm surprised that you haven't had much of a response on this topic...try Ontrack 4x4 in keilor.

doesnt tiny do them??? i think he has some prices in his sig line.

you've also go sandy @ aus4wd

or you can use savage racing or it could be ravage not sure but they are located in lilydale i saw some of there work on rohans middy gq and it looks awesome. they are loacted in lilydale

Thanks for the responses, will do some research in the next few days at those suggested suppliers. Was surprised I didn't get more respsonses and more info. Am interested in having a go at a few comps and I am going to need one, so any info is good info.

Thanks again!

I can get 6 point roll cages for $1150 plus GST and extra's like barriers etc. supplied only for this price. Works out to be about $1800 fitted and approved with a cargo barrier. and I'm in townsville though

KLC in bayswater do them as well - awesome work.

Dave

yeah, I do 6 point cages, email me at tiny@rageracing.com.au

Tiny,
What's your take on being able to make the lower third of the back stays verticle??

We've got an extra-cab which is too short to be able to have those back stays completely straight all the way to the floor, but if we have them at 30 degrees to verticle for the most part, we can just fit it in if the lower 300mm is verticle to the floor.

Cheers
Mitch

GQ TROL wrote:Tiny,
What's your take on being able to make the lower third of the back stays verticle??

We've got an extra-cab which is too short to be able to have those back stays completely straight all the way to the floor, but if we have them at 30 degrees to verticle for the most part, we can just fit it in if the lower 300mm is verticle to the floor.

Cheers
Mitch

you cant have a abend in them as in the event of a rol they will offer little or no support as the will just bend at that point. most extra babs will have the rear try with a "rear 4 point half cage" and a 4 point front half cage, on mine when I chop I will pass two conecting peices through the cab to join the two half cages and will effectivly have an 8 point cage. although the rules differ and some allow two full 4 points, OBC next year for eg will require the two cgaes joined so I have being told. it seems silly to me as the 2 4 points un joined will be stronger than a 6 point in a soft top or wagon anywhy

Thanks Tiny, that was my interpretation of it also.

NZ will inevitably follow AU rules, so we intend to build our cage to CCDA specs. We're trying to avoid cutting holes thru the bulkhead of the cab to connect the two 4 point cages together......was just hoping you had a magic solution to our problem, guess not

As the cab is mounted to the chassis via rubber body mounts, and hence allows some movement, I'm not keen on connecting the rigid (chassis mounted) rear 4 point cage to a flexible front 4 point cage....just asking for trouble in my view.

GQ TROL wrote:Thanks Tiny, that was my interpretation of it also.

NZ will inevitably follow AU rules, so we intend to build our cage to CCDA specs. We're trying to avoid cutting holes thru the bulkhead of the cab to connect the two 4 point cages together......was just hoping you had a magic solution to our problem, guess not

As the cab is mounted to the chassis via rubber body mounts, and hence allows some movement, I'm not keen on connecting the rigid (chassis mounted) rear 4 point cage to a flexible front 4 point cage....just asking for trouble in my view.

agree, the option (more work) is to pass the internal cage through the body with room for movement (and high probability of flooding ) and mount internal cage on the chassis, but I reckon leave it as two seperate cages until the rules for the two to be joined are enforced. if you want to be safe, get two clamps (i use tig welded custom 6mm ones) the right lenght of tube with the holes for the clams drilled and a hole saw to the events and then you can do it in 20 minutes if it is enforced

agree, the option (more work) is to pass the internal cage through the body with room for movement (and high probability of flooding ) and mount internal cage on the chassis, but I reckon leave it as two seperate cages until the rules for the two to be joined are enforced. if you want to be safe, get two clamps (i use tig welded custom 6mm ones) the right lenght of tube with the holes for the clams drilled and a hole saw to the events and then you can do it in 20 minutes if it is enforced

Sounds like a good idea! It won't be enforced in NZ for atleast 12 months I'd say.

What happens in the event of the body seperating from the chassis (which would be ok cos you're safely enclosed in your cage)?? but the rigid chassis mounted rear cage will have to come along for the ride also?? Can't be a good combo??

GQ TROL wrote:

agree, the option (more work) is to pass the internal cage through the body with room for movement (and high probability of flooding ) and mount internal cage on the chassis, but I reckon leave it as two seperate cages until the rules for the two to be joined are enforced. if you want to be safe, get two clamps (i use tig welded custom 6mm ones) the right lenght of tube with the holes for the clams drilled and a hole saw to the events and then you can do it in 20 minutes if it is enforced

Sounds like a good idea! It won't be enforced in NZ for atleast 12 months I'd say.

What happens in the event of the body seperating from the chassis (which would be ok cos you're safely enclosed in your cage)?? but the rigid chassis mounted rear cage will have to come along for the ride also?? Can't be a good combo??

duck

duck

hehe, the simplest answer is usually the correct one huh!

I have just come back from talking with Andrew @ On Track. $2400 for a 6 point installed. They are actually made inside the vehicle. After seeing the 6 point, I wouldn't bother with a 4 point. These bars are a work of art.

blkmav wrote:I have just come back from talking with Andrew @ On Track. $2400 for a 6 point installed. They are actually made inside the vehicle. After seeing the 6 point, I wouldn't bother with a 4 point. These bars are a work of art.

I do em for $2100.00 installed as long as the car comes to me with the dash loose

I have just come back from talking with Andrew @ On Track. $2400 for a 6 point installed. They are actually made inside the vehicle. After seeing the 6 point, I wouldn't bother with a 4 point. These bars are a work of art.

Pics??

Another thing you can look at for you extra cab is run a third hoop instead of stays.

Thanks for the info everyone, very helpful!

Hey Tiny roughly how long does it take you to install them? I'm in melb,but the in laws are near Penrith so come up there a bit anyway, definately not out of the question!

Thanks,

Paul

some pics would be awesome if available, pics installed in cab would be cool too.....pushing my luck?

beretta wrote:Thanks for the info everyone, very helpful!

Hey Tiny roughly how long does it take you to install them? I'm in melb,but the in laws are near Penrith so come up there a bit anyway, definately not out of the question!

Thanks,

Paul

take two blokes all day, can email pics, only $70.00 to freight to vic anyway

Yeah, when I get one I would like it installed by someone who knows what they're doin.....so I won't be putting it in! Anyway email some pics to paul_beretta@hotmail.com if you can. Thanks Tiny.

beretta wrote:Yeah, when I get one I would like it installed by someone who knows what they're doin.....so I won't be putting it in! Anyway email some pics to paul_beretta@hotmail.com if you can. Thanks Tiny.

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