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whats my rear diff !!!
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:02 pm
by morkz
Ok its been asked before i have tried doing the search i even remember the post but do you think i can find it! NOPE !
so if you can let me know where that special number is located it will be much appreciated.
need to know for someone where they can find out if there diff is h233 or h260 i know the size but i want to make certain.
cheers
James
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:07 pm
by bazzle
on vehicle ID plate under bonnet under Trans
Bazzle
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:22 pm
by morkz
thanks bazzle
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:24 pm
by Screwy
the H260 diffs are HUGE that are very very very big.
H233B are the same size as all GQ front and rear and MQ rear.
the H260s are far far bigger than this.
also as bazzle said on the ID plate usually the numbers can be found.
screwy
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:57 pm
by morkz
can the numbers be found on the diff because thats where i think they can be found? i looked at the ID plate and no information there.
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:02 pm
by A1
Hasnt all the late h260's have a flat bottom that actually ended up having similiar under diif clearance as a h233.....
duz yours have a flat bott on the diff .....................but yeh unless they changed the mod plates it should be stated ?
Dan
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:44 pm
by JontyG
James was making the enquiry for me...seems that it's a h233, from what i've read:
- has 11 bolts
- rounded bottom (not flat, like h260)
- does not look noticable bigger than front
Thanks All
Jonty
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:58 pm
by ozy1
id say its the H233 as well mate
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 11:06 pm
by bogged
ozy1 wrote:id say its the H233 as well mate
agree
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:11 am
by mickyd555
how can you tell from the compliance plate that that is what it is. i tried to decifer it, but it makes no sence to me............
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:13 am
by bazzle
mickyd555 wrote:how can you tell from the compliance plate that that is what it is. i tried to decifer it, but it makes no sence to me............
Actually you cant...
Gives ratio, have to physically view diff.
Bazzle
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:45 pm
by Screwy
bazzle wrote:mickyd555 wrote:how can you tell from the compliance plate that that is what it is. i tried to decifer it, but it makes no sence to me............
Actually you cant...
Gives ratio, have to physically view diff.
Bazzle
yep that compliance plate doesnt have it on it.
its a H233B.
screwy
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:45 pm
by JontyG
Thanks for the confirmation guys.
Now that this has been sorted out, I'm interested to know if there is any advantage to the larger h260 diff? stronger? Is it markedly better than the h233??
Not that it makes much difference...just wondering
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:36 pm
by morkz
yeah they have massive axles they are much stronger i think air lockers do cost more for them and parts are not as common, also cwp are more expensive as well.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:59 pm
by Beastmavster
There's a second plate near the washer bottle so if it isnt on the info on the firewall check there.
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:06 pm
by Bad JuJu
I read somewhere that HG code means 233 and HH means 260 ... but stuff on the net has sometimes known to be wrong
and that the 2 numbers are the ratio
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... ht=diff+gu
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:05 pm
by Snarba
according to my manual the H260 is a 4.8-1 ratio. Are you sure MQ/MK diffs are the same as GQ? My MK SD33TD has 4.6's and I'm pretty sure that is a H233b diff, but thats not the standard ratios in a GQ ( 4.3 to 3.9's?)
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:00 pm
by matthewK
just reading here, out of the GQ 1988 to 1997 manual i got for my machine
all hard top and station wagon modles execpt the patrol ti and the maverick XLT are equipped with a H233b final drive assembly with either a conventional or limited slip diff as standard.
the maveric XLT ,patrol Ti and some ST are equipped with h233b final drive with locking differential, utility and cab chassis modles are equipped with the H260 with either conventional or LSD
All modles have the a final driv ratio of 4.111:1 ecept the ST and Ti modles euipped with a manual trans, 3liter modles and maverick XL .
the 3 litre modles has a ratio of 4.375:1
and the ST, Ti and XL have a final ratio 3.900:1
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:45 pm
by mr Z
which number relates to the diif ratio on the compliance plate?
i'm trying to work out what my coil cab has. not sure how it will go with 35's
thanks
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:59 pm
by matthewK
would be a H260 from what im reading for cab which are 4.8:1 from what snarba saying
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:22 pm
by Daisy
from memory reading somewhere... i think the h260 came out in the early leaf sprung GQ utes in the rear.
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:50 am
by RoldIT
Daisy wrote:from memory reading somewhere... i think the h260 came out in the early leaf sprung GQ utes in the rear.
Correct, the Coil Cabs didn't have a H260 to my knowledge.
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:51 am
by RoldIT
mr Z wrote:which number relates to the diif ratio on the compliance plate?
i'm trying to work out what my coil cab has. not sure how it will go with 35's
thanks
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:32 am
by matthewK
i just read it out of my gregorys manual for petrol engines 1988- to 1997 for GQ
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:28 pm
by mr Z
so HG35 means the car has 3.5 ratio?
my coil cab has HG41 so thats 4.1's?
are 4.6's the go for 35's?
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:54 pm
by matthewK
no i also have HG41 diff pritty sure its the 3.9:1 ratios
so it would be a H233B if im right yes?
matty
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:09 pm
by MKPatrolGuy
mr Z is correct
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:35 pm
by matthewK
im trying to understand it a bit here ,
my compliance plate reads HG41
its a 1988 GQ 4.2l petrol LWB
iv also been told i have the ST now reading my manual which is a 2003 one,
all modles have the final drive of 4.1.1 eccept the ST and TI with a manual transmisstion , the 3 litre modles and the maveric XL
reading on it says the 3 litre has 4.375:1 ratio and the ST ,TI and the XL have 3.900:1
just wondering also what the 1992 on ward RX and DX have ?
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:46 pm
by MKPatrolGuy
matthewK wrote:im trying to understand it a bit here ,
my compliance plate reads HG41
its a 1988 GQ 4.2l petrol LWB
iv also been told i have the ST now reading my manual which is a 2003 one,
all modles have the final drive of 4.1.1 eccept the ST and TI with a manual transmisstion , the 3 litre modles and the maveric XL
reading on it says the 3 litre has 4.375:1 ratio and the ST ,TI and the XL have 3.900:1
just wondering also what the 1992 on ward RX and DX have ?
I don't think the ratios were set in concrete. If you have HG41 on your compliance plate you GQ definitley had 4.1s when it left the factory.
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:29 pm
by matthewK
oh wells donno how i got it stuck in my mind figure i had 3.9 in it
if it got the 4.1 i guess the 33s i want will turn just a little bit better