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No BFG's or STT's until the end of the year!!!! (33's)
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:53 pm
by Cossie
Just been speaking to a tyre dealer re: 33/12.5/15 muddies and he cant get BFG's or STT's until the end of the year
He has MTR's but seen as they are the same price as BFG's and the STT's are $20 cheaper each than the others I'm a little reluctant to go the MTR's
anyone else had problems getting any?
Are MTR's that bad?
Re: No BFG's or STT's until the end of the year!!!! (33's)
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:56 pm
by "CANADA"
Cossie wrote:Just been speaking to a tyre dealer re: 33/12.5/15 muddies and he cant get BFG's or STT's until the end of the year
He has MTR's but seen as they are the same price as BFG's and the STT's are $20 cheaper each than the others I'm a little reluctant to go the MTR's
anyone else had problems getting any?
Are MTR's that bad?
mtr's are a great rubber...just easyer to get im asuming
Re: No BFG's or STT's until the end of the year!!!! (33's)
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:41 pm
by carts
mad_landie wrote:Cossie wrote:Just been speaking to a tyre dealer re: 33/12.5/15 muddies and he cant get BFG's or STT's until the end of the year
He has MTR's but seen as they are the same price as BFG's and the STT's are $20 cheaper each than the others I'm a little reluctant to go the MTR's
anyone else had problems getting any?
Are MTR's that bad?
mtr's are a great rubber...just easyer to get im asuming
MT/R's are a pretty good all round tyre. I think you'll find most people haven't had many bad experiences with them. From my experiences, i have seen more sidewall punctures in a BFG than in an MT/R.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:47 pm
by Slunnie
In VIC though the BFG's and old STT's would probably be better than the MTR's because of the mud, which I understand you have a lot of.
Re: No BFG's or STT's until the end of the year!!!! (33's)
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:58 pm
by bogged
Cossie wrote:Just been speaking to a tyre dealer re: 33/12.5/15 muddies and he cant get BFG's or STT's until the end of the year
thats interesting, I pick my BFGs up in few days. 2 containers just came in according to my bloke. Only reason Im going BFG is PRICE, i got a fuckin killer deal. If I could get same price on MTR's I would grab em.
As for the STT's why would they release a tire to the public, then have 0 supply.
Re: No BFG's or STT's until the end of the year!!!! (33's)
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:58 pm
by Juzza
bogged wrote:
As for the STT's why would they release a tire to the public, then have 0 supply.
'Cause someone lost the order!.....
Re: No BFG's or STT's until the end of the year!!!! (33's)
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:00 pm
by Cossie
bogged wrote:Cossie wrote:Just been speaking to a tyre dealer re: 33/12.5/15 muddies and he cant get BFG's or STT's until the end of the year
thats interesting, I pick my BFGs up in few days. 2 containers just came in according to my bloke. Only reason Im going BFG is PRICE, i got a ***** killer deal. If I could get same price on MTR's I would grab em.
As for the STT's why would they release a tire to the public, then have 0 supply.
You'd take the MTR's over the BFG?
what order would you rate the three in? and what sort of money did you manage to score the BFG's for?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:03 pm
by Zute
I bought a set of five STT's 2 weeks ago, but only 30x9.5. Maybe they are so pop' that they sold out.
Re: No BFG's or STT's until the end of the year!!!! (33's)
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:08 pm
by bogged
Cossie wrote:You'd take the MTR's over the BFG?
what order would you rate the three in? and what sort of money did you manage to score the BFG's for?
Yup, I'd rate the MTR over BFG as an ALL ROUNDER.
Great on road dry and wet, great on sand (Robe and Murray Sunset), great on Rocky Track, and Vicrange, and all round High country, so they work well in all shit. IMHO, there isnt much in the 2, but the BFG did have a bad name in sidewalls when they first updated them to the "KO and KM" series... Havent heard of any failures for yonks now, so maybe they have picked up their game.
Scored the BFG for a real good price
Tirepower Blackburn, Go in and see Michael (bald dude - Great bloke), dont bother calling for cheap prices, prices are better in person.
Havent run the STT but the old STT were SOFT.
Will try 1 more place tomorrow for MTR price, failiing that the containers of BFG landed already and they have been ordered
Re: No BFG's or STT's until the end of the year!!!! (33's)
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:11 pm
by bogged
Juzza wrote:bogged wrote:
As for the STT's why would they release a tire to the public, then have 0 supply.
'Cause someone lost the order!.....
LOL!!! Now thats a great business!
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:15 am
by De-lux
have you guys seen a pic of the STT's?
they look pretty friggin' similar to the MT/R
COOPER
BFGoodyear
Re: No BFG's or STT's until the end of the year!!!! (33's)
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:35 am
by Ryano
bogged wrote:Juzza wrote:bogged wrote:
As for the STT's why would they release a tire to the public, then have 0 supply.
'Cause someone lost the order!.....
LOL!!! Now thats a great business!
Cooper Tires in the States haven't started production on certain sizes yet.
Australia is the only country outside of the States that has access to the rolling production on the new STT. This means that we are able to get sizes as they are released in the States. Every other country has to wait until the full range is available.
Cheers,
Ryano
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:14 am
by Tiny
I am very happy woth the MTRs as an allround tyre, hve not run stts but have rune BFGs and would rate the MTRs over them....have yet to have any real problems even in mud
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:07 am
by HeathGQ
i ordered 33 BFG muddies 4 weeks ago - and apparently they left melbourne on Monday. This was through BJTmart.
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:24 am
by Busiboy
I would try another tyre dealer, sounds like yours has upset someone or mightn't be paying his bills or has a heap of MTRs to move . . . . .
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:34 am
by turps
I had the old type STT in a 33". I was pretty happy with them they last quite a while, so am willing to test the new design out. Actually if they had run out stock in the old design I would buy them also.
Also had old design BFG, never had any blow outs or issues with them either.
Both of these where very predictable in the wet/dry and dirt/mud.
MT/R's, well I have them now in a 35x12.50R15. They are good off-road and on dirt. Even dry on-road they are good. But in the wet I havent been totally impressed with them. They tend to break away easier. This could just be that they are a bigger tyre than the others though.
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:33 pm
by CJ Burns Esq
I've just had two blow outs with the old style STT's. One not too bad and the other a major.
First one just north of Innamincka and the other on the inside track south of Birdsville. The local bloke at Copley said he had seen 5 STT's let go in the past 4-5 months.
Both my STT's were new, been on the truck since Easter with about 4,000k's on em.
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:47 pm
by turps
CJ Burns Esq wrote:I've just had two blow outs with the old style STT's. One not too bad and the other a major.
First one just north of Innamincka and the other on the inside track south of Birdsville. The local bloke at Copley said he had seen 5 STT's let go in the past 4-5 months.
Both my STT's were new, been on the truck since Easter with about 4,000k's on em.
Mine where old, I brought them 2nd hand off ARB southern (Dandenonge).
Then I did heaps of miles on them.
On the way home, from a trip to Broken Hill, Innaminka, Birdsville, peopples corner and the Fliders. I was driving on the wear indicaters. So they wear very bald and I have had no problem other than tearing some of the lugs off (it still held air though).
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:47 pm
by bogged
you may have been right on the BFG's... I'm getting the dance of the madis gras fairys on these tires...
Re: No BFG's or STT's until the end of the year!!!! (33's)
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:08 pm
by RaginRover
carts wrote:mad_landie wrote:Cossie wrote:Just been speaking to a tyre dealer re: 33/12.5/15 muddies and he cant get BFG's or STT's until the end of the year
He has MTR's but seen as they are the same price as BFG's and the STT's are $20 cheaper each than the others I'm a little reluctant to go the MTR's
anyone else had problems getting any?
Are MTR's that bad?
mtr's are a great rubber...just easyer to get im asuming
MT/R's are a pretty good all round tyre. I think you'll find most people haven't had many bad experiences with them. From my experiences, i have seen more sidewall punctures in a BFG than in an MT/R.
The maths of that plays out a bit differently
the BFGs have a 2 x 1000 Denier side wall vs the 3 x 1500 denier sidewall of the MTRs (from memory)
Tom
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:00 pm
by Ryano
BFG - 3 x 1000 denier
MTR - 3 x 1500 denier
Cheers,
Ryano
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:13 pm
by Bingham
Busiboy wrote:I would try another tyre dealer, sounds like yours has upset someone or mightn't be paying his bills or has a heap of MTRs to move . . . . .
comments like these just ask for pimping and that i'll do.....
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:11 pm
by GUJohnno
The new Coopers got a bad wrap in the previous 4WD Monthly
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:16 pm
by "CANADA"
De-lux wrote:have you guys seen a pic of the STT's?
they look pretty friggin' similar to the MT/R
COOPER
BF
Goodyear
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:23 pm
by -Scott-
GUJohnno wrote:The new Coopers got a bad wrap in the previous 4WD Monthly
...in sloppy mud at high pressures. After lowering pressures the driver was happier, and on all other terrain types the performance was considered good.
The wear figures were variable too. On some vehicles, the measured wear indicated excellent mileage, on one vehicle the measured wear was abominable. (I like that word - I'll type it again - abominable.
) Of course, YMMV.
Truth in reporting, perhaps? You've gotta decide if your a half full or half empty type of person. I'm guessing you're a "half empty" "BFG Rule" type of person.
Scott
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:39 pm
by 80lsy gq
well i just got a set of cooper stt's fitted to my pootrol from Ryano the rubber god and i went wheelin the other weekend and i drove everywhere that my 34 jts used to at 15psi and i didnt even let the stt's down at all...still had 38 psi in them....and on top of that they handle good on the road and i dont have to fark around and change tyres anymore as well...
for ryano and fourbys......
now about those irocs???????????????????????????????????
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:48 pm
by Cossie
80lsy gq wrote:well i just got a set of cooper stt's fitted to my pootrol from Ryano the rubber god and i went wheelin the other weekend and i drove everywhere that my 34 jts used to at 15psi and i didnt even let the stt's down at all...still had 38 psi in them....and on top of that they handle good on the road and i dont have to fark around and change tyres anymore as well...
for ryano and fourbys......
now about those irocs???????????????????????????????????
what size STT's?
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:54 pm
by bogged
GUJohnno wrote:The new Coopers got a bad wrap in the previous 4WD Monthly
dont they have big enough ads?
again the only thing I heard about STT's is how fast they wear :(
if that doesnt matter, then go get em!
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:49 am
by mabsydney
I've got the new STTs in 33" but I had to pre-order them as Cooper have been bringing small numbers into the country. Contact a tyre dealer and ask to put some on back order that way you'll get first dibs when a batch come into the country.
Great tyres, very happy with them.
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:34 am
by Bingham
ryano i would normally pm this but thought it may be of interest availability wise to others on this thread.........
those claws you put on chris's 80 (bought 90-95%) he wants to trade in on the new coopers muddies for hiway traveling reasons, of the same size 305/75/16 or is there a size in between the 315's as doesnt want that big again..........
let us know on here availability wise as it may be of interest toa few of the lads and pm me please oh RUBBER GOD