Spring Survey

Post by **Bodge** » Fri Jun 27, 2003 2:18 pm

Would be interested to find out what rates and heights you are all running on your Rangies?

I currently have OME 764's on the friont which are 220lb by 17" and RS 180lb 18" on the rear.

Steel winch bar and 8274 at the front.

Front is too stiff and the rear is too soft.

Trying to get the balance right and keep around 2-3" of lift.....

Post by **HSV Rangie** » Fri Jun 27, 2003 3:59 pm

Front 220 lb x 16.
rear 220 lb x 18.

this gives 75mm lift or just over.

Bilstien shocks.
Michael.

Post by **landy_man** » Fri Jun 27, 2003 6:12 pm

surely with less weight in the rear it would sit up or am i missing something

Post by **madrangie** » Fri Jun 27, 2003 6:18 pm

front 180
rear 310
free lengths no idea but they are custom made gives me a rear bumpstop of 200mm and front of 140mm

Post by **amtravic1** » Sat Jun 28, 2003 8:50 am

I use Rangie spares 180 lb in the front, 270 in the rear, pink, white combo. I have a steel bull bar, winch and duel batteries at the front ant at the rear, an arb bar, custom wheel carrier, 120 litre fuel tank and always a load of builders tools or camping gear. The set up works well except the rears are too heavy when lightly loaded on rocky hills.

Post by **landy_man** » Sun Jun 29, 2003 9:14 pm

HSV Rangie wrote:Front 220 lb x 16.
rear 220 lb x 18.

this gives 75mm lift or just over.

Bilstien shocks.
Michael.

what sort of weigh do you have in the front and the rear..
does the rangie sit flat or slightly up in the back

Post by **amtravic1** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 7:52 am

At a gues I would say a 150kg in the rear most of the time plus the weight of the rear bar and Brown Davis fuel tank. The ride leveller is not working but I cant be bothered removing it. The car sits flat with about 2/3 of a tank of fuel, around 80-90 litres. Most of the time you would not notice it is carrying a load. ARB steel bar, 30kgs?, Optima battery x 2, 40 kgs, Ramsey electric winch, another 35kgs?
I had a set of Lovells rear springs in, around 240 lb rate but they were too soft with the weight I carry most of the time but much better when unladden.
I am using OME shocks because of price and although there is nothing wrong with them will change back to Bilstein when the current ones need replacing.
I almost forgot, I have removed all the efi gear from my car and replaced it with an Edelbrock manifold and quadrajet carby. The efi mainfold is suprisingly heavy and the front came up a bit with the new set up.

Post by **HSV Rangie** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 8:10 am

Nothing in the back, has custom rear bar with tyre carrier.
Front has stell b/bar only at present.
I think the front springs are a little to heavy, may change to a set of 180 lb soon.

Front sits a little lower than rear.

Regards
Michael.

Post by **Bodge** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 3:36 pm

HSV Rangie wrote:Front 220 lb x 16.
rear 220 lb x 18.

this gives 75mm lift or just over.

Bilstien shocks.
Michael.

Are these custom or off the shelf?

Post by **HSV Rangie** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 4:38 pm

off shelf.

AMV had them.
But most sell them.

Michael.

Post by **landy_man** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 6:16 pm

they would be off the shelf rangie spares springs i pressume...

Post by **amtravic1** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 7:18 pm

Yep, off the shelf items. Rangie Spares also offered a custom made spring if I wanted someting different but the set up I have is good. They make a good range of springs and a couple of different lengths. Mine are the standard height but because of the heavier rate give a lift. I used the same set up with Bilsteins on my old 78 2 door with no problems however used to tow a trailer with the tools in so less weight in car. Used 220 lb rears which worked better in terrain I like to drive. ( Steep rocky Hills)

Post by **bazzle** » Fri Jul 18, 2003 10:22 am

Front is too stiff and the rear is too soft.

Swap springs end to end

bazzle

Post by **Bodge** » Fri Jul 18, 2003 11:16 am

If only it was that simple...

I think the rates would be alright but the lengths would be a bit wacky - 18" in the front and 17" in the rear.

Quite apart from the ass down look i wouldn't want to go higher in the front as the vibes from the DS already add a new rythmn section to the CD playing as it is...

Post by **landy_man** » Fri Jul 18, 2003 5:56 pm

16.8" 180's front
18" 220's rear

that should sit level and be nice and soft

Post by **mickrangie** » Fri Jul 18, 2003 6:04 pm

16.8" 180 LB RS REDS
17" 270LB RS White/Green

Post by **landy_man** » Fri Jul 18, 2003 6:19 pm

but you carry the kitchen sink in there :rofl:

Post by **mickrangie** » Fri Jul 18, 2003 10:03 pm

and now i have to bring spare axles when i go out with you :finger:

Post by **Bodge** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 11:24 am

landy_man wrote:16.8" 180's front
18" 220's rear

that should sit level and be nice and soft

I agree on the rears... I am still not decided up front - 180 might be a little soft unless i can redistribute some of the weight currently hanging out in front of the axle...

I am thinking more like 200lb by around 17" might just leave the 220's there for a bit and see how they go with a firmer spring in the rear...

Post by **HSV Rangie** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 12:24 pm

220's in front are OK they just feel a little to stiff IMO, 200's would be perfect I think.

i would like to try somehing around 250 lb in the rear as I still think they may be a little to soft (rocks and rols more than I would like.

Michael.

Post by **mickrangie** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 3:12 pm

is your holden motor cast iron???

I would think if so then you would need a min of 220lb up front..

Post by **HSV Rangie** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 3:31 pm

Yep,

Just feels slightly heavy may be just me.

Its not harsh just feels firm.

Michael.

Post by **mickrangie** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 3:50 pm

what shocks do you run up front??

I have an arb bar, high mount (plasma rope) and two batts with a std 3.9 and the 180's are just right, heaps of flex and a nice 'rangie ride'

Post by **HSV Rangie** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 4:06 pm

Bilstien. but need to be longer.

Post by **mickrangie** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 4:57 pm

me too, i found them a little too short also..

I am going have the Rangie Spares 30% sus kit plus his extra long Bilstiens fitted when they come in (next month).

LandyMan just got a set of MX6's which are LONG!!! dunno how they travel yet but time would tell the price isn't that bad also.

Post by **landy_man** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:18 pm

there are so many variables to this answer ...
first decide what you will be driving mostly i.e. rocks, mud, sand
how much travel do you want...
what sort of load will you be carrying...

Then get a couple of different springs together and have a play...put different rates and lengths in and see what suits you...don't forget to load the vehicle up....

Rangie Spares unfortunatly don't make a 200 lb spring...I think that would pe perfect...
With the winch, heavy custom bar and battery..I have put 2 6mm spacers under each front spring, just to balance the car nicely... with the 180lb 16.8 springs

I also found a way to solve the famous rangie lean... I ended up with an 18" 220lb drivers rear and a 17" 220lb passenger lean..the car sits level with or without me in it

That is my advice........ get a couple of sets on loan and spend a weekend trying different combo's

Post by **Aquarangie** » Tue Jul 22, 2003 6:04 pm

I run 180lb in the front, 200 in the rear.

I have found I need something a bit heavier in ther arse end because by the time I load the Rangie up with recovery and camping gear it sags like shit (remember my Rangie was an air suspended model, no load leveller. A bit of a bummer, but you get that!!)

May look at 200 front and 220-240 for the rear later on.

Regards,

Aquarangie

If it ain't broke, leave the bastard alone!!

Post by **Bodge** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 12:12 pm

Aquarangie wrote:
If it ain't broke, leave the bastard alone!!

I am broke so I have to leave it alone :cry:

Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Spring Survey

Spring Survey

Who is online