, but. what ever works for you baby.So this inner Suzuki purist, does he have diff locks or after maket gearing, engine mods or suspention fitted?Podge wrote: the Suzuki purist within me just won't allow me to go beyond keeping genuine Suzuki componentry where deemed possible.
Gee, we've found another topic to have an even greater discussion on, on top of the existing topic and this one's guarranteed to get you nowhere in the way of the right answer.droopypete wrote:So this inner Suzuki purist, does he have diff locks or after maket gearing, engine mods or suspention fitted?Podge wrote: the Suzuki purist within me just won't allow me to go beyond keeping genuine Suzuki componentry where deemed possible.
Peter.
Yes I agree completly, so what is if people are breaking stock diffs on a regular basis what grounds could there be agianst "beefing up"?Podge wrote:
My sentiments on what a Suzuki purist will most definately not coincide with everybody else's sentiments but if I had to be put to the test then I'd say the true purist is somebody that is somebody that drives a bog standard vehicle off the showroom floor (or at least in the same form) with maybe factory extras. That ain't me, but it is on my mind when modifying my Sierra as to what the limits of keeping it Suzuki are. As soon as you modify or fit a non OE part/accessory, it's past being the purist of Suzuki owners, but we know that we need the mods to enhance offroad ability, so it's a compromise not withstanding how much of a challenge it is to keep as much of your vehicle original.
droopypete wrote:Yes I agree completly, so what is if people are breaking stock diffs on a regular basis what grounds could there be agianst "beefing up"?Podge wrote:
My sentiments on what a Suzuki purist will most definately not coincide with everybody else's sentiments but if I had to be put to the test then I'd say the true purist is somebody that is somebody that drives a bog standard vehicle off the showroom floor (or at least in the same form) with maybe factory extras. That ain't me, but it is on my mind when modifying my Sierra as to what the limits of keeping it Suzuki are. As soon as you modify or fit a non OE part/accessory, it's past being the purist of Suzuki owners, but we know that we need the mods to enhance offroad ability, so it's a compromise not withstanding how much of a challenge it is to keep as much of your vehicle original.
Peter.
ps sorry about the delay in my posts but I am playing Xbox with my son at the same time
So think about what your going to post up guys and don't turn the thread to shyte.droopypete wrote:This could end up being a locked thread with everyone on the bus
zook diffs are fairly narrow so they can fit between rocks that wider diffed veihilcs would need to go over. they can also fit between trees and in tighter places then zooks wiff biger difs. they are also lighter so less wieght on sand and mud. and less weight when recovering.There is no way that any Zook is better off with the Weak stock diffs.
a few inches width squeezing between rock isnt goin to helpsuperzuki wrote:
zook diffs are fairly narrow so they can fit between rocks that wider diffed veihilcs would need to go over. they can also fit between trees and in tighter places then zooks wiff biger difs. they are also lighter so less wieght on sand and mud. and less weight when recovering.
you say there is "no way"....there is advantages to bigger wider diffs and to stock zook ones.
Ahhh ok so what your saying is if you drive around all the obsticals then stock zook diffs are better. I understand nowsuperzuki wrote:zook diffs are fairly narrow so they can fit between rocks that wider diffed veihilcs would need to go over. they can also fit between trees and in tighter places then zooks wiff biger difs. they are also lighter so less wieght on sand and mud. and less weight when recovering.There is no way that any Zook is better off with the Weak stock diffs.
you say there is "no way"....there is advantages to bigger wider diffs and to stock zook ones.
And as for less weight when recovering i can understand that as well because i have had to recover a few Stock Zooks because they Broke Axle components trying to drive the hard line Sorry RUFF but I disagree with you there, you can't say,RUFF wrote: There is no way that any Zook is better off with the Weak stock diffs.
) and the extra width and weight would be a plus as well, the toy axle tubes are tougher and take a weld better, it is easier to find second hand beadlocks for 6 stud than 5, same goes for second hand lockers and such, histeer is available at KMart and you have a wider choice of ratio's.I never said a word about rock crawlingdroopypete wrote:
Sorry RUFF but I disagree with you there, you can't say,
"There is no way that any Zook is better off with the Weak stock diffs"
because I believe I am better of with Sierra diffs,
if I wasn't I would have fitted the Toy ones in the back yard years ago.
The extra diff clearance I have over Hilux axles is something I want to hang on to, it is also the main reason I went SPOA (to move all that shit to above the axle tube and out of my way) sure a toy diff can be shaved but so to can a zook,
I will not argue that the hilux diffs don't have many benifits, they are stronger, but I have not had a problem with strength (as yet, 5 years
But not all serious 4 wheel drivers rockcrawl.
Peter.
Its Simple. They are stronger in every way and have more variety of Gear Ratios and parts are much easier to come by. And as you know the clearence issue is a moot point if you shave the Hilux Diff. They then have just as much clearence as a stock zook diff. They are also a very simple conversion.As you allready stated Hilux Diffs can be set up to have the same clearence as Stock Zook diffs so your no better off except in the Pocket.droopypete wrote:No, I am better of with Suzuki diffs, as I said in my previous post,
"The extra diff clearance I have over Hilux axles is something I want to hang on to"
Peter.
I also said that Suzuki diffs can be shaved, giving zook diffs the advantage agian, (but we are talking millimetres hereRUFF wrote: As you allready stated Hilux Diffs can be set up to have the same clearence as Stock Zook diffs so your no better off except in the Pocket.
)Yes that is right, but that is also what I said in my 3rd post here.RUFF wrote:If you dont need anymore strength for what you are driving then you may as well stay with zook diffs but if your breaking anything then you are better off upgrading.
good point, BUT i think axel wrap and slight airbornness had a big influance on that busted uni, If your car had a ladder bar or was spua, it probly wouldnt have busted.droopypete wrote:Yes that is right, but that is also what I said in my 3rd post here.RUFF wrote:If you dont need anymore strength for what you are driving then you may as well stay with zook diffs but if your breaking anything then you are better off upgrading.
Don't get me wrong I am not a "purist", I like my zook, but I have no problems substituting a zook part for a better one if the need should arise, my tailshafts are a good example, blowing a rear uni at night, half way up the steps at Toolangi and coming down backwards out of control is not my idea of fun, exciting? sure, character building? definatly, but not fun, so Toyota drive shafts were fitted, no more problems
Peter.
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