Roof off the middy

Post by **turbo4t** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:54 pm

Anyone got some pics of a middy with the top off?. Do they take long to get on and off?. What were they thinking with the full leangth rear doors? any solutions?

Post by **Trusa** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:44 am

There are a couple of pics here. I believe Jake (Muss) also had his off when doing some mods to the roof to make it "MQ Patrol and Bronco style" removable so he may have some photos. Dunno how you'd go with rubbers etc. resealing it putting it back on. These guys may be able to answer.

Post by **midi73** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 2:08 am

There are about 4 or 5 bolts either side at the back. 2 brackets in the back corners. about 4 bolts in the panel with the interior light in it and about 4 or 5 bolts in the top of the windscreen surround. and a bolt either side on the outside under the badge at the front of the frp top.

Post by **beanz2** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 5:44 am

turbo4t wrote:What were they thinking with the full leangth rear doors? any solutions?

Toyota makes rear doors that have removable glass. But I agree, full rear doors on an FRP top doesn't make sense.

Dave

Post by **Thommo 73** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 11:34 am

there are 20 bolts all up and about 20mins to get off and don't forget the bolts behind the little badge on the side (it just pops off )

and where can i find the removeble glass doors?

Post by **beanz2** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 2:19 pm

Canvas top Bunderas should have them, but they are rare, aren't they?

Dave

Post by **MUSS** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:14 pm

Trusa wrote:There are a couple of pics here. I believe Jake (Muss) also had his off when doing some mods to the roof to make it "MQ Patrol and Bronco style" removable so he may have some photos. Dunno how you'd go with rubbers etc. resealing it putting it back on. These guys may be able to answer.

yeah thats pretty much spot on trusa un fortunatly i cant find the pics think i might have to take some more o bourght another frp top and have since made it into a ute style top just trying to come up with ideas to keep it secure and water tight as i dont want to remove my rear drawers i also want to fab up some ute style roll bars as the genuine ones dont look the part on the uted conversion...
things you might not know bout this conversion... the bundera rear doors are exactly the same as the middys...
the soft top bundera sold roof cross member fits the middy exactly too ( for all you blokes that want a sorft top middy)
hope this helps

Post by **Ruggers** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:19 pm

the bundera half doors tops are to small with the roof back on.. and jake you only realy need the rear roll bars if you have rear seats which you dont

Post by **droopypete** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:27 pm

Ruggers wrote:the bundera half doors tops are to small with the roof back on..

Sorry Ruggers, that is incorrect, the bundera doors will be fine.
Peter.

Post by **MUSS** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:42 pm

Ruggers wrote:the bundera half doors tops are to small with the roof back on.. and jake you only realy need the rear roll bars if you have rear seats which you dont

narh you have to have the roll bars as they are a factory fitted item as a saftey item so as ive been told by the engineer here you either keep the original or make something stronger

Post by **MUSS** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:45 pm

droopypete wrote:
Ruggers wrote:the bundera half doors tops are to small with the roof back on..
Sorry Ruggers, that is incorrect, the bundera doors will be fine.
Peter.

yep i second that.... suprised mee too dont go tellin everyone that bundy doors fit the middy next thing ya know we will be gettin called sissys lmao

Post by **frp88** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:27 pm

beanz2 wrote:
turbo4t wrote:What were they thinking with the full leangth rear doors? any solutions?
Toyota makes rear doors that have removable glass. But I agree, full rear doors on an FRP top doesn't make sense.

Dave

i dont think we have a bundy with a fiberglass top meldge has the best looking no roof middy well thats my opinion

Post by **sierrajim** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:39 pm

like this

Post by **droopypete** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:01 pm

frp88 wrote:
beanz2 wrote:
turbo4t wrote:What were they thinking with the full leangth rear doors? any solutions?
Toyota makes rear doors that have removable glass. But I agree, full rear doors on an FRP top doesn't make sense.

Dave
i dont think we have a bundy with a fiberglass top meldge has the best looking no roof middy well thats my opinion

Post by **frp88** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:11 pm

sierrajim wrote:like this

thats an frp like mine not bundy

Post by **frp88** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:14 pm

droopypete wrote:
frp88 wrote:
beanz2 wrote:
turbo4t wrote:What were they thinking with the full leangth rear doors? any solutions?
Toyota makes rear doors that have removable glass. But I agree, full rear doors on an FRP top doesn't make sense.

Dave
i dont think we have a bundy with a fiberglass top meldge has the best looking no roof middy well thats my opinion

have got anymore pics and specs

Post by **droopypete** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:14 pm

frp88 wrote:have got anymore pics and specs

Isn't that a song from the 60's?

Peter.

Post by **droopypete** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:20 pm

It is my 88 model RJ70 bundera with an FRP top cut down to fit,
and apart from the roof and the 35" BFG muds on 10" alloy wheels and the diff gears, it is stock as a rock and very reliable

Peter.

Post by **MUSS** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:21 pm

droopypete wrote:It is my 88 model RJ70 bundera with an FRP top cut down to fit,
and apart from the roof and the 35" BFG muds on 10" alloy wheels and the diff gears, it is stock as a rock and very reliable
Peter.

hey pete does the front end scrub out when flexed up and or on hard lock?

Post by **droopypete** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:59 pm

MUSS wrote:hey pete does the front end scrub out when flexed up and or on hard lock?

Bearing in mind that this is my road car, (I have my sierra for the hard stuff

) no, the 35's don't touch anywhere except on the rear if I am weighted down with 5 adults and gear, they just touch the flares.
Peter.

Post by **sierrajim** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:54 am

frp88 wrote:
sierrajim wrote:like this
thats an frp like mine not bundy

Original question

Anyone got some pics of a middy with the top off?.

A Middy would generally be classified as a 73 series, Bundy would be SWB

Post by **Bundy_Harry** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:00 pm

The Bundera is only those vehicles with VIN starting with RJ70 and LJ70, both were available in hard and soft tops
RJ70 2.4 22R petrol with G52 5 speed and 4.556:1 diffs coil sprung
LJ70 2.4 2LTE diesel with R150 5 speed and 4.875:1 diffs coil sprung

The MWB series are those vehicles with VIN starting with BJ/FJ73 and BJ/FJ74. These came standard with removeable FRP top only (ie no genuine hard or soft tops)
FJ73 3F petrol 5 speed R series and 4.11:1 diffs Leaf sprung
BJ73 3B diesel 5 Speed H series and 4.11:1 diffs Leaf sprung

The 74 series were not originally sold in Australia however a number of them are now starting to appear as imports

Other 70 series cruisers were available such as the BJ/FJ/PZJ/FZJ70 that were indeed a short version of the MWB. These are tough SWB landcruisers with full landcruiser drivetrain and leaf srpung suspension. They also share the same appearance with none of the front panels being changed as was the case with the bundera

my 2c worth

cheers harry

Post by **frp88** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:30 pm

harry[/quote]These came standard with removeable FRP top only (ie no genuine hard or soft tops)
in oz only japan middys come as hard tops

Post by **turbo4t** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:34 am

Bundy_Harry wrote: The 74 series were not originally sold in Australia however a number of them are now starting to appear as imports

The BJ74 LX, like mine was sold in Australia in the late 80's.

Post by **turbo4t** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:42 am

sierrajim wrote: Original question

Anyone got some pics of a middy with the top off?.
A Middy would generally be classified as a 73 series, Bundy would be SWB

The original question had nothing to do with the history of Toyota's, their names, chassis numbers or what they're generally referred to as

Post by **beanz2** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:56 am

turbo4t wrote:Anyone got some pics of a middy with the top off?.

Here is a blurred pic:

Post by **83 lux** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:39 pm

beanz2 wrote:
turbo4t wrote:Anyone got some pics of a middy with the top off?.
Here is a blurred pic:

i like it

Post by **frp88** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:27 pm

does anybody know the weight of the top

Post by **droopypete** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:35 pm

frp88 wrote:does anybody know the weight of the top

My wife and I can put it on by ourselves

it is no where near as heavy as a 40 series roof.

Post by **V8 Middy** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:29 pm

My roof is off atm while the re-build is going on (its going to be sweeet!!) I'll get pics up in a day or 2

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