Outer Limits 4x4 Board

ok as u guys know im in the middle of collecting parts to start building my LWB.

i will b running 80 series diffs.
39.5 IROK's.
coils F&R or coilovers.

im toying with the idea of motors...

i have 2 ideas so far.

comy v6, auto, hilux tcase with gears, or dual case.

OR

4AGZE, with eithe auto or manual, and zook case with gears, and probly diff gears.

just wondering wat other people think will best fit the rest of the build ??

any ideas an opinions appreciated....

hypozook wrote:ok as u guys know im in the middle of collecting parts to start building my LWB.

i will b running 80 series diffs.
39.5 IROK's.
coils F&R or coilovers.

im toying with the idea of motors...

i have 2 ideas so far.

comy v6, auto, hilux tcase with gears, or dual case.

OR

4AGZE, with eithe auto or manual, and zook case with gears, and probly diff gears.

just wondering wat other people think will best fit the rest of the build ??

any ideas an opinions appreciated....

4agze... keep it light. That motor will be a monster with 6 or 8 : 1 gearing behind it

I agree...with gearing I don't see a real need for big engine like the V6. 4AGZE has plenty of power and is light as mick said..isn't that what everyone thinks is the main advantage of a zook anyway? cheers

How about a 4agze to a divorced lux cases, keep the whole lot light but upgrade to a dual case setup. you can buy plates that allow you to use a lux case in a divorced setup(not sure if you could use duals in this setup but I imagine that its feasible).

coilovers? 4agze?

i didnt see no money tree when i was at your house last

redzook wrote:coilovers? 4agze?

i didnt see no money tree when i was at your house last

hehe, i said coils or coilovers

but yeah since i got pricing bits and peices for the V6 setup, things started going thru my head, if i go this way ill end up with a top heavy POS thats got too much weight over the front axle.

Hmmmmm ok another thing to think about, is will the zook tcase hold up to this much power ? if braced with a spine from roctoy(which i have), do u guys think it will make the case beef enuf to cope ?

i will b running 80 series diffs.
39.5 IROK's.
coils F&R or coilovers

Is it going to be engineered and registered in NSW. I hope you go production -modified `cause it wont pass rego in NSW in two years time.

If its for comp use, then it wont matter. I`d go the coilovers. and the 4agze with a corolaa auto into a calmini case, like FNZOOK did few years ago.

Bentzook wrote:

i will b running 80 series diffs.
39.5 IROK's.
coils F&R or coilovers

Is it going to be engineered and registered in NSW. I hope you go production -modified `cause it wont pass rego in NSW in two years time.

If its for comp use, then it wont matter. I`d go the coilovers. and the 4agze with a corolaa auto into a calmini case, like FNZOOK did few years ago.

yes, yes, yes do this Ben! 4AGZE into a corolla trimatic mated to a zook case (get a Sambox2, $500US)
my pitt crew on the weekend both sucessfully run this combo and it works unreal. It'll piss all over any V6 Commo motor!
Just get the auto rebuild and toughened up from the start.

the superchargers can be opperated via a switch too (Mad Max style)

the suzuki trans case should hold up,mine is twincharged now with no probs from stock transfer case gears

iv seen drew break both front cvs and a rear axle on the same hill , and the case is still alright.

roc70y wrote:

Bentzook wrote:

i will b running 80 series diffs.
39.5 IROK's.
coils F&R or coilovers

Is it going to be engineered and registered in NSW. I hope you go production -modified `cause it wont pass rego in NSW in two years time.

If its for comp use, then it wont matter. I`d go the coilovers. and the 4agze with a corolaa auto into a calmini case, like FNZOOK did few years ago.

yes, yes, yes do this Ben! 4AGZE into a corolla trimatic mated to a zook case (get a Sambox2, $500US)
my pitt crew on the weekend both sucessfully run this combo and it works unreal. It'll piss all over any V6 Commo motor!
Just get the auto rebuild and toughened up from the start.

the superchargers can be opperated via a switch too (Mad Max style)

ok sounds like a goer then, any more details on this setup Chris, u got any numbers i can call and chat to people bout it ?

cant you make your own decisions? its your rig isnt it

CHOPZUKI wrote:cant you make your own decisions? its your rig isnt it

haha yeah i just want some opinions

So why won't it be registab;le in two years time... explain?

Don't know the regs up there, but I think your main issue will be weight (if you want registration). Down here it appears that you need to have enough room in your GVM to take minimum 2 ppl (@ 80kg each), a full tank of fuel (40l = 30 kg, and 200 kg to spare to be engineerable. So take your GVM, subtract (160 + 30 + 200) 390 kg, and that is the maximum dry weight you can be.

dont be soft ben, go a gen3-t700-atlas

hypozook wrote:

roc70y wrote:

Bentzook wrote:

i will b running 80 series diffs.
39.5 IROK's.
coils F&R or coilovers

Is it going to be engineered and registered in NSW. I hope you go production -modified `cause it wont pass rego in NSW in two years time.

If its for comp use, then it wont matter. I`d go the coilovers. and the 4agze with a corolaa auto into a calmini case, like FNZOOK did few years ago.

yes, yes, yes do this Ben! 4AGZE into a corolla trimatic mated to a zook case (get a Sambox2, $500US)
my pitt crew on the weekend both sucessfully run this combo and it works unreal. It'll piss all over any V6 Commo motor!
Just get the auto rebuild and toughened up from the start.

the superchargers can be opperated via a switch too (Mad Max style)

ok sounds like a goer then, any more details on this setup Chris, u got any numbers i can call and chat to people bout it ?

Take Bennys for a drive at Woodpecker man, it is so smooth. No vidrations, lots of nuts.

bens auto works well but he has problems with reliability

Santos wrote:So why won't it be registab;le in two years time... explain?

Basically Santos, the car will be very heavily modified, and unless the car is built under the supervision of an engineer, plated and categorised correctly, when it goes for its next inspection it will fail due to the nature of the modifications.

I am in VIC theough where the rules are different, so if I am off the tractk let me know.

bah! is that all? had me worried.. with alll the exta clamping down on road rules in nsw i thought you where saying 'no more non g13 blocks'
(the 15yr rule ended before i was aware of it... shame i wanted a 92 Cara.

the 4agze couldn't be that much heavier than a g13ba... after all our gvm would ha to have been taken from a 'fully optioned' sierra and as most of us have no air con there must be weight to sub in the supercharger

I have read the 4a weighs 154kg. thou that maybe with gbox. inc super

Thats of a ricer forum

cheers

nicbeer wrote:I have read the 4a weighs 154kg. thou that maybe with gbox. inc super

Thats of a ricer forum

cheers

dont think they are that heavy

im thinking more like 110-125 kg

with 3 speed auto and a supercharger

go 4 the 4agze, its super ballsy reasonably lite
fits in nice and goes like champ on the street!!!!


next time if it isnt stupidly wet like woodpecker
take it 4 a run!!

Have you thought of trying a 2l V6 vitara conversion. Keep with the suzuki stuff and it will turn out awesome.What would be awesome is a 1.6l and rice it out and turbo/SC with lots of internal goodies and extras. Just my opinion so dont get offended.
BTW what car does the 4AGZE come from im confused?

dave

The 4AGZE came out of Toyota Trueno's and out of MR2 celica's.

There are slight differences in power output throughout the range and from memory had better pistons in the older ones?

4AGZE had oil squirters in the bottom of the pistons to keep them cool and lubed and they also came in front wheel corolla's (and the last of the rear wheel drive corolla's as well)

ZOOK60 wrote:bens auto works well but he has problems with reliability

i think bens tranny has overheating probs i run a v8 tranny cooler on mine no probs at all i also run a 14 in thermo full time to keep it cool plus the standard fan .almost all auto failures are due to heat probs i dont think youll have any strength issues though.