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T-case torque rotation

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:52 pm
by jeep97tj
Which way does the T-case try and turn (when looking from the front) under torque when driving forward??

When i work it out in my head im thinking it trys to turn counter clockwise (lift up on the single mount, and push down on the double mount).

But when looking at the way the mounts are set up im thinking clockwise, i would think Suzuki would use common sense and maximise strenght by making it pull up on the double mount and push down on the single mount.

Any one know for sure?? im making up a new mount/ bash plate using the tcase ring and want to get the chassie mounts set up right.

Thanks Shane

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:56 pm
by nicbeer
If i remember rightly the long side gets all the torque as this is the one that bends. I have broken a couple of these long side mounts at the free end.

cheers

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:35 pm
by Rhett
U are right. when the short side mont brakes it hits up under the floor. So anticlockways from front in forward gears.

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:43 pm
by Zute
I think it gets more torque when you lift/back off the throttle. Well in the the case of a 1ltr anyway.

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:25 pm
by duncan
im pretty sure it rotates the way you are thinking Shane as aftr giving it heaps up at Toodjay the passengers side mount was bent up through were the bolt runs through the plate have since plated up with 6mm plate all is good

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:25 am
by jeep97tj
Good stuff, thanks :cool:

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:23 pm
by CHOPZUKI
just tried it out in practical for ya ;) in forwards it turns anti clockwise from the front (gearstick moves to the right when loaded up).

so yeh it lifts up on single mount and pushes down on double mount in forwards.

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:21 pm
by jeep97tj
Thanks uncle chop chop :lol: .

Has any one seen or heard of the rubber mounts ripping in half eg pulling the studs out of the rubber block, how strong are they, just seem to here about the arms bending and with strenghted arms u here the cases cracking open.

would like to re use the rubber mounts if possible, just set them up so it is compressing the mounts both sides instead of compressing one side and pulling the other.

Whats a mount worth? I need one more

Thanks shane

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:32 pm
by nicbeer
They are weak. I have busted a couple. I have been using a bolt with shock rubbers in there as cushion. Markil was using early cortina engine mounts.

The factory mounts are relying on a bit of glue on the end of the metal tabs.

thanks

Nic

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:33 pm
by DeWsE
Yeah it is common for them to break in half. Common thing to do is put a bolt through it and lay some conveyor belt rubber in between.

Get your old man to get some from work

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:07 pm
by RUFF
Or you could buy a transfer ring off chris(ROC70Y) and finish it off and do the job properly once.

Ill get more pics when its back in his buggy but the LH mounts are not going back to the LH rail as it has a section of cage work right above the transfer that i can mount it to.

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:11 pm
by redzook
yep as chop said it extends the single mount

ive ripped about 4 or 5 in half

dont rip them anymore tho ran a bolt with 3 bits of conveyour belt throug it

but its starting to take a toll on the chassis mounts now tho

willl make some new 6mm ones when i lift the transfer

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:25 pm
by jeep97tj
Mine will look something like that as i will be using angle iron on the ring which will bolt to some angle iron that will be welded to the chassis, with rubber between the 2.

Took a little cutting to get the tcase up flush with the chassis :)

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:19 am
by Roctoy
i'm guessing you guys haven't lifted the body off the chasis at all shane?

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:33 pm
by jeep97tj
Nope no body lift. would of been easy with a 2" body lift, but i would rather cut then lift.