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use of air lockers
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use of air lockers
Scenario... You are climbing up a series of steep rock steps. Halfway up you need to make a hard turn. You have both front and rear lockers engaged.
Question.... Is it safe to disengage the front lockers to make the turn without doing damage to them (remembering you are on a step incline so the diffs would be under load)?
Question.... Is it safe to disengage the front lockers to make the turn without doing damage to them (remembering you are on a step incline so the diffs would be under load)?
FJ62 Crusier GM V8 Diesel Lockers 33 MTs/35 117 extremes
Macarthur District 4WD Club http://www.macarthur4wdclub.com.au
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Turn them off as you please. If you are doing a serious climb you can have major loads on all wheels. Just wondering 80 nsw do you have a front locker?80 nsw wrote:If you are using your lockers, means that you have wheels in the air or with very little load. So steering shouldn't be a problem, and you can leave your lockers on.
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Nah more like steep angles with holes and steps halfway up.mad_landie wrote:the load u speak of is foot to the floor and a wheel in the airNev62 wrote:Thanks guys. I was told that turning air lockers on or off when the diffs were under load was bad juju (things going bang and all that).
Nev
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not so much under load .... but turning ur locker on while ur on the gas and have wheels spinning you will do damageNev62 wrote:Thanks guys. I was told that turning air lockers on or off when the diffs were under load was bad juju (things going bang and all that).
Nev
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I haven't had any problems. A little bigger turning circle but not as bad as the air-locker brigade like to have you think. Drive one and find for yourself.bagsy wrote:must be fun doin a tight turn around a switchback.blkmav wrote:This is why I run a front lock-right, it's always engaged

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Yep this is the case, most of the time they will not dissengage untill either you back off or the load comes off it. You can turn them on or off when ever you want but turning them on when on the gas big time with only 1 wheel spinning can be bad for breaking stuff. Some rigs will have trouble turning when the front is locked, my hilux doesn`t seem to care if its locked or not. It will have a slightly bigger turning circal but it still turns no worries.Wooders wrote:Actually when Under load, you might hit the buton, but I think you'll find the locker stays engaged untill the load lessens enough o allow it to disengage....
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Yea me too, they won't disengage until unloaded, just don't engage them when wheels are spinning!! as was posted above.Damo wrote:This has been my experience too.Guts wrote: Yep this is the case, most of the time they will not dissengage untill either you back off or the load comes off it.
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Had lockrites and they are crap. To hard on drive train components. Probably not to bad with little wheels but when you start talking 35's aired down and on rocky terrain they are bad news.blkmav wrote:I haven't had any problems. A little bigger turning circle but not as bad as the air-locker brigade like to have you think. Drive one and find for yourself.bagsy wrote:must be fun doin a tight turn around a switchback.blkmav wrote:This is why I run a front lock-right, it's always engaged
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I dunno been runnign 35/36" tyres for a few years now and my front lockright has held up fine.....Was you'rs a rear application?DR Frankenstine wrote:Had lockrites and they are crap. To hard on drive train components. Probably not to bad with little wheels but when you start talking 35's aired down and on rocky terrain they are bad news.blkmav wrote:I haven't had any problems. A little bigger turning circle but not as bad as the air-locker brigade like to have you think. Drive one and find for yourself.bagsy wrote:must be fun doin a tight turn around a switchback.blkmav wrote:This is why I run a front lock-right, it's always engaged
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Patroler wrote:Yea me too, they won't disengage until unloaded, just don't engage them when wheels are spinning!! as was posted above.Damo wrote:This has been my experience too.Guts wrote: Yep this is the case, most of the time they will not dissengage untill either you back off or the load comes off it.
Dont engage them when the wheels are spinning , that means only at a complete stand still they can be engaged ?????
or do you mean spinning meaning full noise ????
Full noise spinningHEY CHARGER wrote:Patroler wrote:Yea me too, they won't disengage until unloaded, just don't engage them when wheels are spinning!! as was posted above.Damo wrote:This has been my experience too.Guts wrote: Yep this is the case, most of the time they will not dissengage untill either you back off or the load comes off it.
Dont engage them when the wheels are spinning , that means only at a complete stand still they can be engaged ?????
or do you mean spinning meaning full noise ????

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you can engage lockers at any speed while driving providing
all wheels are moving at the same speed
just don't do it when ur in a mud whole and ur spinning up one front tyre
and one rear tyre at full noise
all wheels are moving at the same speed
just don't do it when ur in a mud whole and ur spinning up one front tyre
and one rear tyre at full noise
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Hilux lsd modified to hydralic locker
side view of ram assembly

Hydralic inlet port

air operated master cylinder

He also does Landcruiser and Hilux Ball Bearing Lockers
J Top
side view of ram assembly

Hydralic inlet port

air operated master cylinder

He also does Landcruiser and Hilux Ball Bearing Lockers
J Top
Last edited by J Top on Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:34 am, edited 2 times in total.
AND we have mexicans living Sth of the borderdroopypete wrote:I think there is also a few people smoking a bit of the "wackey weed"J Top wrote:There is an engineer over here using a brake m/c to hydralically lock hilux lsd's, giving instant locker engagement and release
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