Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Scenario... You are climbing up a series of steep rock steps. Halfway up you need to make a hard turn. You have both front and rear lockers engaged.

Question.... Is it safe to disengage the front lockers to make the turn without doing damage to them (remembering you are on a step incline so the diffs would be under load)?

i cant see ne probs doing it im constantly turning mine on and off, esp if i gotta back up etc, ill disengage the front to allow for turns and saving cvs etc

turn them on and off when u please

If you are using your lockers, means that you have wheels in the air or with very little load. So steering shouldn't be a problem, and you can leave your lockers on.

80 nsw wrote:If you are using your lockers, means that you have wheels in the air or with very little load. So steering shouldn't be a problem, and you can leave your lockers on.

Turn them off as you please. If you are doing a serious climb you can have major loads on all wheels. Just wondering 80 nsw do you have a front locker?

Thanks guys. I was told that turning air lockers on or off when the diffs were under load was bad juju (things going bang and all that).

Nev

Nev62 wrote:Thanks guys. I was told that turning air lockers on or off when the diffs were under load was bad juju (things going bang and all that).

Nev

the load u speak of is foot to the floor and a wheel in the air

This is why I run a front lock-right, it's always engaged

mad_landie wrote:

Nev62 wrote:Thanks guys. I was told that turning air lockers on or off when the diffs were under load was bad juju (things going bang and all that).

Nev

the load u speak of is foot to the floor and a wheel in the air

Nah more like steep angles with holes and steps halfway up.

Nev62 wrote:Thanks guys. I was told that turning air lockers on or off when the diffs were under load was bad juju (things going bang and all that).

Nev

not so much under load .... but turning ur locker on while ur on the gas and have wheels spinning you will do damage

blkmav wrote:This is why I run a front lock-right, it's always engaged

must be fun doin a tight turn around a switchback.

Actually when Under load, you might hit the buton, but I think you'll find the locker stays engaged untill the load lessens enough o allow it to disengage....

bagsy wrote:

blkmav wrote:This is why I run a front lock-right, it's always engaged

must be fun doin a tight turn around a switchback.

I haven't had any problems. A little bigger turning circle but not as bad as the air-locker brigade like to have you think. Drive one and find for yourself.

Wooders wrote:Actually when Under load, you might hit the buton, but I think you'll find the locker stays engaged untill the load lessens enough o allow it to disengage....

Yep this is the case, most of the time they will not dissengage untill either you back off or the load comes off it. You can turn them on or off when ever you want but turning them on when on the gas big time with only 1 wheel spinning can be bad for breaking stuff. Some rigs will have trouble turning when the front is locked, my hilux doesn`t seem to care if its locked or not. It will have a slightly bigger turning circal but it still turns no worries.

Auto lockers been there done that. You don`t notice how crap they are untill you`ve air locks.

Guts wrote:Auto lockers been there done that. You don`t notice how crap they are untill you`ve air locks.

Got one of each currently - looking forward to trying cables next

Guts wrote: Yep this is the case, most of the time they will not dissengage untill either you back off or the load comes off it.

This has been my experience too.

Damo wrote:

Guts wrote: Yep this is the case, most of the time they will not dissengage untill either you back off or the load comes off it.

This has been my experience too.

Yea me too, they won't disengage until unloaded, just don't engage them when wheels are spinning!! as was posted above.

blkmav wrote:

bagsy wrote:

blkmav wrote:This is why I run a front lock-right, it's always engaged

must be fun doin a tight turn around a switchback.

I haven't had any problems. A little bigger turning circle but not as bad as the air-locker brigade like to have you think. Drive one and find for yourself.

Had lockrites and they are crap. To hard on drive train components. Probably not to bad with little wheels but when you start talking 35's aired down and on rocky terrain they are bad news.

DR Frankenstine wrote:

blkmav wrote:

bagsy wrote:

blkmav wrote:This is why I run a front lock-right, it's always engaged

must be fun doin a tight turn around a switchback.

I haven't had any problems. A little bigger turning circle but not as bad as the air-locker brigade like to have you think. Drive one and find for yourself.

Had lockrites and they are crap. To hard on drive train components. Probably not to bad with little wheels but when you start talking 35's aired down and on rocky terrain they are bad news.

I dunno been runnign 35/36" tyres for a few years now and my front lockright has held up fine.....Was you'rs a rear application?

Patroler wrote:

Damo wrote:

Guts wrote: Yep this is the case, most of the time they will not dissengage untill either you back off or the load comes off it.

This has been my experience too.

Yea me too, they won't disengage until unloaded, just don't engage them when wheels are spinning!! as was posted above.

Dont engage them when the wheels are spinning , that means only at a complete stand still they can be engaged ?????

or do you mean spinning meaning full noise ????

HEY CHARGER wrote:

Patroler wrote:

Damo wrote:

Guts wrote: Yep this is the case, most of the time they will not dissengage untill either you back off or the load comes off it.

This has been my experience too.

Yea me too, they won't disengage until unloaded, just don't engage them when wheels are spinning!! as was posted above.

Dont engage them when the wheels are spinning , that means only at a complete stand still they can be engaged ?????

or do you mean spinning meaning full noise ????

Full noise spinning

Yep Ratshit lockers are pain in the arse especially on rear for highway use, if only you could have lsd inside air locker so you dont get any single pegger action wearing ya center out and just engage the locker when its warranted.

you can engage lockers at any speed while driving providing
all wheels are moving at the same speed

just don't do it when ur in a mud whole and ur spinning up one front tyre
and one rear tyre at full noise

There is an engineer over here using a brake m/c to hydralically lock hilux lsd's, giving instant locker engagement and release
J Top

J Top wrote:There is an engineer over here using a brake m/c to hydralically lock hilux lsd's, giving instant locker engagement and release
J Top

I think there is also a few people smoking a bit of the "wackey weed"
Peter.
PS, do you want to buy a Hyclone?

Hilux lsd modified to hydralic locker
side view of ram assembly

Hydralic inlet port

air operated master cylinder

He also does Landcruiser and Hilux Ball Bearing Lockers
J Top

droopypete wrote:

J Top wrote:There is an engineer over here using a brake m/c to hydralically lock hilux lsd's, giving instant locker engagement and release
J Top

I think there is also a few people smoking a bit of the "wackey weed"
Peter.
PS, do you want to buy a Hyclone?

AND we have mexicans living Sth of the border . Any more info J Top

Cheers

any more info on this?

Jes

blkmav wrote:This is why I run a front lock-right, it's always engaged

same here.
have air locker in the back too
my preference.

i meant more info on the hyraulic locker
Jes