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buying a gq
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:32 pm
by mgundle
hi all im in the market for a gq and well after doing a search i havent found any info regarding what im looking at
basically i would like some input in possibly buying a gq lwb
but i need to know if it seems like a good buy like i know no one can see the car but any input would help,
overall its in good condition body and interior very few scratches
its a 1993 gq ti
4.2 efi straight petrol
250000kms
has had a clutch by the previous owner
full electrics as a ti would
velour trim
bullbar
low mount winch
drive lights
cb & uhf
over head console
cargo barrier
rear draws not sure if they are prof made or not
air compressor and tank
dual batteries
rear lock right diff (not sure if thats correct in wat it is)
and different springs
recently new tyres muds on standard ti rims
HR tow bar
its being sold with no rwc and im not sure what to look for on a gq it looks clean but under neath not sure
he is asking 15000 but im not sure if that is high or low or spot on and info would be great
cheers
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:45 pm
by mikmav
gotta worry about the price if they're afraid to get a rwc done on it..
for $15k I thought that'd be expected...
buying a gq
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:51 pm
by mgundle
the fella is heading os in april so thats why he isnt bothering with rwc
also reg is out in april
i have worked on this car before and i know the owner car is very clean
but price is way up there
i was thinking along the lines of 13000 as is
even try lower cos he is in need of money
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:28 pm
by Beastmavster
$15k is a hell of a lot of money for a GQ these days.....
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:45 pm
by Patroler
That sounds like a fair bit of money for a petrol one, i just picked up a 4.2 diesel one for 18 with 135k on the clock, after looking around a heap at ones with mods and turbos, lockers(all the things i want), etc all the ones i looked at had non original motors and high k's, i figured it best to get one pretty original and unf%cked with and carry out my own mods properly.
But as far as petrols go i saw a few that looked ok with mods for around the 13 mark or less, definately cheaper and more plentiful than the diesel, i just wanted and was prepared to pay for the diesel one

as i've got a son about 2 months away and would like to get into outback touring stuff more.
For 15k and a petrol 93 mod i'd want a roady and dual fuel

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:34 pm
by bogged
Patroler wrote:For 15k and a petrol 93 mod i'd want a roady and dual fuel

you would want a fully rebuilt Turbo petrol for that price!!!!
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:33 am
by fnqcairns
This a post I did elsewhere a month or so ago, It still hold true IMO
I have just finished looking at every GQ patrol LWB for sale in Australia, at least that's what it seemed like. With the help of the internet I researched around 60 of these vehicles on price, condition, model (RX,DX etc) and engine type also other things.
This is what I came up with others may disagree, there is not a GQ LWB (wagon) petrol engined worth more than $10000 on the private market and not one diesel worth more than $13000 (non turbo) as a private sale either.
To be worth more than this they would need to be very low Km for their age and be in spotless condition with a couple of decent aftermarket extras bolted on to just cross the line. Some I looked at were way overpriced, many were still for sale after 2-3 months.
So at least in the capital cities your 10grand will find you a fairly smick late model 94-97 model petrol GQ with 140 to 200 thousand km on it. Or a very nice diesel GQ with a sick engine but all low km.
The petrol including fuel, servicing, parts etc will be the all up cheaper car to own too, it just will not feel like it when you fuel up.
Be very careful buying a good GQ unreg that has been modified in the suspension height by more than a couple of inches. It is very hard ATM to find an engineer that will pass one of these in QLD I have been informed. It might cost you a lot to get it roadworthy. RWC???? You will need to look into that.
Just one more thing aftermarket goodies are not worth very much from a buyers perspective so try and look through them ie $5000 dollars worth of aftermarket goodies or mods could add $1000-$1500 to the value but only if they were in as new condition and they are exactly what you would have fitted. Some would consider they actually depreciate the vehicles value.
cheers fnq
Ps if you are buying through a dealer add 4 to 6 thousand depending where you live onto each of the prices above.
I bought my 1 owner 96 GQ RX wagon td4.2, 2 months ago for $11500 (9months rego) with under 200k (just) all in a real VGC with 13K of dealer servicing receipts, never towed, hardly ever off road with a body and drivetrain that reflects it was a shopping trolley and stored undercover.
You can do WAY WAY better than the one you are looking at.
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:47 am
by chimpboy
fnqcairns wrote:This a post I did elsewhere a month or so ago, It still hold true IMO
I agree with this. The one described above is probably worth $10k if it's very clean and tidy, but even so I'd be holding out for a dual fuel anyway, personally. And at that price, an RWC is not optional in my book.
Remember that people are NOT having an easy time selling straight petrol 4WDs these days. As a buyer, you could be successful with an offer much lower than the asking price.
As for what to look for, check out
Bogged's guide under "buying a gq?" for some tips.
I would say drive it in all six gears, look for smoke or obvious clunks, banks, signs of things being broken. Because they are quite a strong vehicle with a strong drivetrain, GQs tend to have obvious problems, not hidden ones. But that's just my general take on it, and I always think it's wise to budget a bit of a repair bill on a new purchase.
Jason
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:29 am
by hienuf
If you look hard enuf,you can pick up early gu patrols at 16k these days.
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:43 pm
by jtraf
at the end of day the car is worth what you are willing to pay for it....
do you homework and make an offer. If you are happy with it you got a good deal......
that is my opinion to it all.....
buyin gq
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:30 pm
by mgundle
thanks to all your replies
i will talk to him and see how low he is prepared to go but i doubt it will be much
Re: buyin gq
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:50 pm
by chimpboy
mgundle wrote:thanks to all your replies
i will talk to him and see how low he is prepared to go but i doubt it will be much
You can definitely afford to take your time looking around. Dual fuel is worth holding out for by the way. Costs about the same to buy a dual fuel as a petrol-only these days but less than half the fuel costs - it really makes a difference even over a few months.
Jason
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:42 pm
by dirtyGQ
i think gq patrols are value for money as they just seem so bloody unstoppable (td42) i payed a small fortune for mine 4 yrs ago and now is worth bugger all. And in most cases aftermarket accesories especially big wheels tyre,winches etc depreciate the value further i am glad i am not selling mine.
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:04 pm
by bogged
mate just sold his 3.0 GQ for $3k!
wish I would have known!
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:05 pm
by Hoonz
i picked up my 4.2 petrol GQ wagon 91 vintage for $8500 had 300000 on it tho and the interior was schmick
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:15 pm
by BIG GQ
I picked up my 90 GQ 4.2 diesel DX for $9000 a few years ago and in VGC then spent $100 on cargo barrier, $2200 on second hand genuine nissan turbo kit, 3" exhaust and dump pipe, top mount intercooler, aneroid, and a few hundred on roof rack spotties, etc.
So an intercooled TD42T in good cond. with IPF and Cibie spotties, roof rack, cargo barries, etc for under $1300 I would tell your mate to shit in his hands and clap at $15000 for a petrol patrol.
