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LSD or locker for the front???

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 3:51 pm
by MUSS
my rig is a BJ73 MWB crusier and im wondering weather or not to get an air locker or an lsd for the front..... lsd would prolly be cheaper as i wood have to beef up the front axels to take the load of an air locker... but i just can decide... :? :?

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 3:58 pm
by POS
Get a locker!!

Yes you will pop CV's and you can look at Longs later on, but a Toyota LSD (even shimed up) is loose as a goose and will not make any difference to your rig!!!

The thing with the Air locker is that you only turn it on when you need it!!!

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 4:03 pm
by MUSS
POS you gotta LSD on the front of your rig tho.... and it makes a difference right??? well it looked like it went well in the vid.. id love to go the locker but i dont want to spend the money on it and then continuely have to fawk out mulla for cvs..... as im a tight arse lol..... what are the longfields worth any way?

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 4:10 pm
by spazbot
yeah but POS also has bling bling traction control
get and airlocker
you will be glad you did

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 4:12 pm
by spazbot
what size tyres are you running now ?
what do you plan to run
what sorta wheeling you going to do
your only going break piles of cvs if you got some big tyres and/or drive like a dick, you can turn the air locker off for when you dont need it and turning etc

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 4:12 pm
by MUSS
as it is when im off road i go hard and i can see myself rollin in a pool of cvs in no time.... can you tell me anythin about the longfields spaz?

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 4:15 pm
by spazbot
um they are a bomb proof cv made in the states, currently snake racing sells them in AU they are $650 each and well worth it, there are a few others going around aswell, core make some, not sure how good tey are and ruff recons he has some secret stuff in the works so might be worth holding out to see what he can produce

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 4:45 pm
by RUFF
JAKE wrote:POS you gotta LSD on the front of your rig tho.... and it makes a difference right??? well it looked like it went well in the vid.. id love to go the locker but i dont want to spend the money on it and then continuely have to fawk out mulla for cvs..... as im a tight arse lol..... what are the longfields worth any way?


In the Video you have seen Adrian only had an Open front diff with Haultech Electronic Traction Control since then we have fitted an LSD to it and also done some more mods to his Traction Control and it is now as good if not better than a locker.

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 4:49 pm
by RUFF
spazbot wrote:um they are a bomb proof cv made in the states, currently snake racing sells them in AU they are $650 each and well worth it, there are a few others going around aswell, core make some, not sure how good tey are and ruff recons he has some secret stuff in the works so might be worth holding out to see what he can produce


Its not me working on these new CVs its the company i work for Haultech. We should have these available for most vehicles very soon and i will keep you all updated.
Vehicles we are currently looking at are-
Hilux solid axle
Cruiser-40-60-70-80-100series
Nissan-G60-MQ-GQ-GU
Suzuki Sierra
Rover

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 4:50 pm
by MUSS
what about the 75 series.... theres a shit load of them about too

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 4:54 pm
by RUFF
They are the same as the 40/60 CVs. But i will add that to the list just for you Jake lmao

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 4:59 pm
by MUSS
awwe shucks RUFF :oops: :lol: THANKS MAAAATE :D

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 5:06 pm
by RUFF
Unless you have a way of controling the LSD like Adrian has dont fit one to the front. They are useless. Dont listen to anyone who says anything different. I have run them in the front before and the cost and hassel of swapping them out is not worth it.

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 5:17 pm
by MUSS
so whats so special bout pos's front end has he got a rover traction control unit or somethin similar...... or is it secret mens buisness lol

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 5:23 pm
by RUFF
No as i said it has a Haultech Electronic Traction Control unit that is custom made by the company i work for and Sam(strange rover) owns. It is his design and is only similar to the rover unit in the fact that it controls traction. It is fully Programable and can also have cutting brakes fitted.
There is a write up along with Sams Artical in the latest 4wd Monthly.

It is not Quite ready for general sale but we are working on this flat out at the moment and we will anounce it on here when it is officially available.

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 5:27 pm
by MUSS
AWWE :shock: :shock: SOUNDS AWESOME :twisted: :twisted: bloody hell now i gotta go a get a 4wdmonthly... i gotta subscribe :D :finger:

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 5:38 pm
by RUFF
I dont think it has made it to the news agents yet.

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 6:01 pm
by POS
Jake,

If you are coming to the weekend, it might pay to hold off untill then before you make a decission!

That way you will get to see how stong Longfields are, how well a locker works, how well a standard lsd works (if anyone is running one) and how HETC (Haultech Electronic Traction Control) works!

You can see how different driving styles have a huge effect on CV's!

Also it gives you a little more time to Save for a locker! :)

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 6:06 pm
by MUSS
POS mate you hit the nail on the head..... now all i gotta do is to see if i can get some time off for this weekender at LCMP

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 6:10 pm
by MUSS
hey pos can you take us for a burn in the lux i make an awesome winch bitch and artifical anchor :D :D :finger: :finger:

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 6:11 pm
by redzook
RUFF wrote:Its not me working on these new CVs its the company i work for Haultech. We should have these available for most vehicles very soon and i will keep you all updated.
Vehicles we are currently looking at are-
Hilux solid axle
Cruiser-40-60-70-80-100series
Nissan-G60-MQ-GQ-GU
Suzuki Sierra
Rover


how soon??? as i am intrested in the zook 1's

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 6:18 pm
by RUFF
It wont be next week. I can not commit to a date. The Toyota ones are the first on the list. This is not because i drive a toyota its because we beleive this is currently the highest demand.

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 7:36 pm
by 83 lux
tony probaly not the right time to ask but any idea how it will work
ie your cv's or you buy them of HT pre done
cost ect

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 7:41 pm
by RUFF
They will be NEW only. No change over.

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 8:01 pm
by killalux
i have a toyota lsd in the front of my lux, and it doesn't make any difference at all.
go the airlock

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 8:04 pm
by MUSS
sounds liek they are pretty shit huh

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 10:35 pm
by beebee
JAKE wrote:sounds liek they are pretty shit huh


I second that! I tried one in the front and it was a waste of time.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 12:04 am
by MUSS
OKAY IT FINAL... im am gonna save up for a front locker and a pair of long fields.... bloody hell it aint gonna be cheap :D :rofl: :rofl:

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:37 pm
by Pesky Pete
A Mate has a Detroit LSD in the front of his 80 series and it works very well while he has forward motion. Once he stops forward motion it does not work well. Being a Turbo Diesel 80 series with a pre boost, the LSD/ Turbo combination has been known to out do double locked, non turbo 80 series when it comes to hilly terrain.

Its really a matter of what you plan on doing with your vehicle. Personally I'd go the locker but there are also arguments for a LSD.

Cheers

Pete

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 7:55 pm
by POS
A detroit LSD is a lot different to a Standard Hilux Lsd!

How much did he pay for the Detroit LSD???