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Quick Winch Help

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:25 pm
by klrevo
okay guys mounted up a winch i got the other day and all was good, until i plugged the remote in and it doesnt work, pulled the socket out for the remote and the white wire for the remote socket has broken off from the socket.

how do i get the little socket out that the pin goes into for the remote? do the little sockets come out the back towards where the wires come into, or out the front where the remote plugs into??? and how do i get them out???i need to rewire it so it works.... :oops: anyone???

dean :)

winch

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:59 pm
by klrevo
sweet....noone knows how to get the individual sockets out of the socket for the remote control on a warn winch... :? didnt think they would

dean :oops:

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:40 pm
by RAY185
I've never had the pleasure of pulling a Warn plug apart. See your local ARB or a decent auto sparky if you can't get any help here in time. Sometimes it takes a little longer than a couple of hours to get an answer here so don't stress too much. :D

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:14 pm
by Zute
Ive got a Tomas Winch. On mine its held in by a grub screw on the side.

winch

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:12 pm
by klrevo
thanks guys, and yeh i know ray, but i was hopign someone would know last night before the sun went down was all, ahh well still not working, and its raining guess itll wait for a few days, not goin driving til the wkend anyways, but if anyone knows itd be great, cos whenever something isnt working is always when u need it :?

dean ;)

winch

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:04 pm
by klrevo
pl,ease if any of those leccy gurus out there can help me get the female pin arrangement outta the plug for the hand controller itd be greatly appreciated, iv looked everywhere i can think of, d/l the warn instruction manual, had a good hard look at it, i just wanna know if it come out the front or the back? and how to get it out??? :bad-words:

dean :D

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:42 pm
by -Scott-
Got pics?

I don't know this connector, but I've popped my share of pins. With a pic we might be able to give some tips.

Cheers,

Scott

winch

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:25 pm
by klrevo
okay guys,

heres some piccies,

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the white wire has broken off and i cant get the female out of the plug to rewire it. does anyone know how or which way they come out? i cant buy just the plug from WARN, only the control box as a new unit, and it cost $468 :shock: other wise can i:

- buy a new 3 pin plug, cut off the hand controller male, cut off the control box female and wire up a new male/female???

- run a toggle switch inside the car??? on/off/on style toggle switch, is 20amps enough for this switch? its similar to the toggle switch in the hand controller and its tiny wiring anyways cant run that much amps...

will these ideas work? :?

surely someone in the world has had similiar problems, iv searched everywehre and tried everyway to get the female out, and two auto leccys have had their go at it also :bad-words:

any help would be awesome

dean ;)

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:22 pm
by tony cordell
just run a switch inside the cab 3 core flex will suffice
pics etc here:
http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showt ... entry42094

on your plug strip some of the sheath push the bare wire into the hole and drop some solder down or araldite the insulation end in with the bare wire push into its hole
that'll work for now.

this place can post you one
http://www.firstfouroffroad.co.uk/winch_parts1.htm

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:36 am
by LOCKEE
New socket is available.

Part no. 16926. Around $45 + Freight.

Where are you? Might be able to put you in contact with a dealer.

winch

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:39 am
by klrevo
thanks lockee, still but $45, thats a bit steep i rekon, its just a plug at the end of the day, but because it is sold under the WARN brand they charge like its an inconvenience for them to bother :bad-words:

anyways lockee,

im on the Central Coast of NSW< say....Gosford is the closest kinda big city, i spoke to Dean and Michael out at Recreational Car Accessories cos they deal with our club and they rekon they cant get just the plug, could be time to go to someone else....

dean :?

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:15 am
by sambo2222
You could replace both male and female plug and socket with a 5 pin trailer connection!!!!!! looks about the same size

winch

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:47 am
by klrevo
thats exactly what iv been thinking sambo, and just running 3 pins in it ;)

dean :D

Re: winch

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:04 pm
by LOCKEE
klrevo wrote:thanks lockee, still but $45, thats a bit steep i rekon, its just a plug at the end of the day, but because it is sold under the WARN brand they charge like its an inconvenience for them to bother :bad-words:

anyways lockee,

im on the Central Coast of NSW< say....Gosford is the closest kinda big city, i spoke to Dean and Michael out at Recreational Car Accessories cos they deal with our club and they rekon they cant get just the plug, could be time to go to someone else....

dean :?
Tell them to ring Ateco in Sydney and they can buy the plug with that part number.

Steep? Go and buy a spare part for your truck.

winch

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:41 pm
by klrevo
thanks heaps lockee, yeh i went back to them and abused them, they rang ateco and they could get the part, $45 like u said, spoke to one of the boys there, sortyed it out, went to Kmart, bought a trailer plug female and male, swapped them over, happy as larry, everythings working, little bit of fiddling round to get the plug to fit in the control box, but all is good heres the photos :D

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ill post up one of the control box tomoz when i get a chance, but yeh everythings sweet, everything works, and i rekon its a more stable plug, had to cut the plug down, redrill where the grub screrw holds the plug in the holder, and file out the hole in the top of the control box, but hey for $0 im not complaining, shitloads better than both the $468 for a new control box, and $45 for a new plug i got quoted, some might prefer to just replace it with the proper plug, but this was sitting round doing nuthing, also going to wire it into the power window swtich that doesnt control any power windows :armsup:

thanks to those who have helped :D

dean ;)

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:39 pm
by Shadow
i have used a few plugs where the plastic is actually two pieces.

like, the top piece holds the block whiich contains the pins inside the bottom piece. (see pic)

winch

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:25 am
by klrevo
that plug on the remote control end is a 2 piece arrangement, where u have the plug, and then the two outer casings screw together to form the plug as a whole, you can see that in the photo ;)

so here some piccies from the control box end, im very happy with the way this turned out actually, and my winch works again, and it cost me nuthing :armsup:

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dean :D

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:06 am
by LOCKEE
Only one problem I can see is that you can't use anyone else's remote again.

Good for troubleshooting and also when someone has left theirs at home.

winch

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:12 am
by klrevo
thanks lockee, but yeh, for 45 bucks for a plug that ateco wanted, i can live with it. thanks for the help though lockee ;)

dean :D

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:31 pm
by Big Red Toy
must say i agree with lockee on this one, if for what ever reason you say drop your controller in a bottomless bog hole, or drive over it etc... & your cars is stuck like all shit, your going to be stuffing around cos no one else contollers would fit
$45 is expensive but ya can't make one for that

wicnh

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:49 pm
by klrevo
understandable, understandable :oops: i just wanted it to be fixed really, and itll be running into a switch in the cab aswell, i can live with that, thanks guys though, it is something i didnt think about ;)

dean :)

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:00 pm
by pongo
Nah, If ya contoller stops working you just need to bridge the 2 wires needed to go in that direction, Eg a paper clip, etc

Cheers

winch

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:43 pm
by klrevo
yeh i learnt that on the wkend up at rope rd, not my car, reece MUD80D, was tellin me all about it ;)

dean :D

winchq

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:25 pm
by klrevo
ok, so i wired up the in cab switch aswell today, took the wires out the back oft he plug to test if the switch would work, (power window switch), and it did, so i wired it into the back of the plug on the control box side. All worked fine and dandy, then went to use the hand controller which worked perfectly before i wired the switch into it, and the hand controller doesnt work?> :bad-words: whats the go there? i thought if i just wired the switch into the back of the plug on the control box, i would also be able to run the hand controller, is there another way i need to wire this up???? cos all i get now is the clicking of the solenoids when i use the hand controller but the switch still works.... :oops:

dean ;)

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:42 pm
by bazzle
To remove connector slide a very small screwdriver down from the wire side and release a little tab. Push connector out with screwdriver in there.

Bazzle

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:14 pm
by Mick.
I've noticed that Jaycar are selling these connectors which are being used on a lot of winches these days. www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=PP1090 & www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=PS1092 These are the same as whats on my T-Max winch only a different colour. I'm now using these instead of 12 volt ciggarette plugs because they are lockable and don't fall out.

Cheers Mick.