Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Posted: **Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:42 pm**

gday,

Just thinking about getting a rockhopper. If anyone has one in their zook, what is it like? And what difference has i made to their zook Both at speed and offroad, also how much did they pay for it...

thanks

Posted: **Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:50 pm**

it depends on size of wheels etc. series 1 or series 3,both dufferent gear ratios,have to choose what suits.cheers.

A mate of mine had a 1 litre zook with s1 hoppers and 31x10's. it was good offroad but a slug on road.

Posted: **Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:23 pm**

every thing you do to your zook is a compromise,
better of road gearing = shitty on road
better on road = shitty off road.

you'll have to look at what you'll really want, then make the decition.

my 2C

Mitch

Posted: **Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:16 am**

that said - if you match up the on road gearing so its close to stock - most replacement gears have a much lower low range... so offroad you'd be way better off in low range... if its too low go to 4th gear or change to hi range...

Posted: **Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:37 am**

mooman wrote:every thing you do to your zook is a compromise,
better of road gearing = shitty on road
better on road = shitty off road.

you'll have to look at what you'll really want, then make the decition.

my 2C

Mitch

my gearing is perfect off and on road

heck my spedo is spot on onroad running 37's
and my crawl ratio is 109:1 offroad

if i was you id get somthing in the 6. somthing :1 range even with 31's its still ok

Posted: **Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:49 am**

Calmini Rockhoppers in my Vit

Great offroad and onroad.

Posted: **Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:14 pm**

Calmini 5.14:1 ratio in my zook, on 32's low range is good, and high isnt too bad either. crawl is arond 70:1 in 1st low. As said its all a compromise when you modify a car. Best bet is to work out where you want to take the car, and get gearing to suit, as its at least $1000 for a set of gearing, then install costs. Better to spend once and get it right.
Layto....

Posted: **Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:15 pm**

redzook wrote:
mooman wrote:every thing you do to your zook is a compromise,
better of road gearing = shitty on road
better on road = shitty off road.

you'll have to look at what you'll really want, then make the decition.

my 2C

Mitch
my gearing is perfect off and on road

heck my spedo is spot on onroad running 37's
and my crawl ratio is 109:1 offroad

if i was you id get somthing in the 6. somthing :1 range even with 31's its still ok

HEya redzook just wondering what sorta fuel economy u get outta yours onroad? What engine you run again?

Posted: **Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:05 pm**

gday fellas,
thanks for your input. I mainly will be travelling on road, so which one do you suggest I get, plus a bit of off road, primarily for just reaching isolated fishing spots

Cheers

Posted: **Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:36 am**

JrZook wrote:
redzook wrote:
mooman wrote:every thing you do to your zook is a compromise,
better of road gearing = shitty on road
better on road = shitty off road.

you'll have to look at what you'll really want, then make the decition.

my 2C

Mitch
my gearing is perfect off and on road

heck my spedo is spot on onroad running 37's
and my crawl ratio is 109:1 offroad

if i was you id get somthing in the 6. somthing :1 range even with 31's its still ok

HEya redzook just wondering what sorta fuel economy u get outta yours onroad? What engine you run again?

1.3 efi
its not tuned to well using about 22L to 150km

Posted: **Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:29 am**

My mates 1.6 Vit Sierra goes great with Series 3s and 32s

Great offraod gearing and very usable onroad.

Posted: **Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:33 am**

I have a 1.3 WT zook on 30" tyres.
I will probably only ever go up to 31" max.
I was tossing up between the Calmini 4.16 or the 5.14.
(both are currently on backorder at calmini anyway)

I know lower is better but I dont want to completely stuff up my high range gearing.
And another thing to consider is the the 4.16 gears are $100US cheaper than the 5.14s.

What do you guys reckon?
Paul.

Posted: **Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:54 am**

I would go the 5.1s.

Having a bit more gearing for offroad is a good thing. Sure the payoff is a few more revs on road - but its not a like a zook will do 200kph anyway

Posted: **Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:28 pm**

Yeah, I am sorta more leanign towards less revs on road, but still reasonable offroad... any suggestions?

thanks

Posted: **Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:28 pm**

beaver700 wrote:gday fellas,
thanks for your input. I mainly will be travelling on road, so which one do you suggest I get, plus a bit of off road, primarily for just reaching isolated fishing spots

Cheers

are your fishing spots really hard to get too? otherwise i wouldnt be wasting my money personally. i ran 32's with standard gearing for quite a while..wouldnt say id recommend it though. maybe you should be looking towards a 1L case instead if you want a little lower?

Posted: **Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:23 pm**

excuse my stupidness but i dont understand how rock crawler gears change its drivig on road? dosnt it only affect it when you put it in 4x4???

Posted: **Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:25 pm**

TinyGQ wrote:excuse my stupidness but i dont understand how rock crawler gears change its drivig on road? dosnt it only affect it when you put it in 4x4???

nope.. its not like your bigger trucks...

it has a reduction in high range also..

as you would know hi range is hi 2 (normal) or hi 4 (same but in 4wd)

Posted: **Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:43 pm**

Ohhh ok that makes sence. Man its like learning a new language! i just got used to how a GQ works and now im keen to get a zook but i have no idea what theyre about! Might buy one already done! lol

Posted: **Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:44 pm**

I got the 4.1s after having 31 mongrels for a year on and offroad.. it makes it easier on the clutch onroad and offroad my clutch doesnt smell anymore trying to spin the tyres and stuff.

The onroad driving is back to a more standard gearing so the engine works better and offroad the low ratios are much funner to crawl around driving up stuff that i couldn't before.

Posted: **Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:02 am**

Just had word from Calmini that their 5.14 gears are back in stock.
http://www.puresuzuki.com/Rockcrawler5.14.htm
Now all I need is the money

Posted: **Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:03 pm**

My 5.14s just turned up today. *WOOHOO* Should have them in this weekend. Running 31" Claws and don't do too much hwy work, so gearing will be good. Gunna go to 32" soon anyway.

Guys from 4X4USA great to deal with. Highly recommend.

Posted: **Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:41 pm**

DAZZ wrote:My 5.14s just turned up today. *WOOHOO* Should have them in this weekend. Running 31" Claws and don't do too much hwy work, so gearing will be good. Gunna go to 32" soon anyway.

Guys from 4X4USA great to deal with. Highly recommend.

What price did Eddie do them for?

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:28 pm**

$1200 delivered. Seemed a good price compared to other places I enquired at.
Now ya probably gunna tell me I payed too much!!!!!

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:32 pm**

DAZZ wrote:$1200 delivered. Seemed a good price compared to other places I enquired at.
Now ya probably gunna tell me I payed too much!!!!!

Sounds about right... I paid just over $1100 for mine last year from him on my WT/31's. Is a tad lower on road than I would like for a daily driver, But I get good mileage out of it and its awesome off road in low range

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:44 pm**

DAZZ wrote:$1200 delivered. Seemed a good price compared to other places I enquired at.
Now ya probably gunna tell me I payed too much!!!!!

Na that sounds about right from an Aus dealer

If you buy direct from the US you can get them for around $900-$1000 aus dollars or so.
But I just found out that Calmini wont take Mastercard unless it has a US billing address

.
They want payment wired to them (direct money transfer).
How do I do this? Is it as simple as doing a transfer into an Aus account?
Can I just use netbank or is it not that simple?
Paul.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:34 pm**

what about paypal?

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:47 pm**

After going out for some winch practice today wishing i had bought 6.1 to 1s or lower you can never be to low

Posted: **Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:51 am**

Has anyone heard good or bad things about the Trail tough gear sets?
They do a 4.9 which will probably suit my 30" (or 31" later) tyres nicely.
A bit lower than the series 1 4.16 without being super mega too low for 30s.
http://www.trailtough.com/transfercase_driveshaft.htm
Paul.

Posted: **Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:16 am**

Havent heard anything bad about them from the guy in my club who has them in his vitara.

Posted: **Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:25 am**

ausyota wrote:
DAZZ wrote:$1200 delivered. Seemed a good price compared to other places I enquired at.
Now ya probably gunna tell me I payed too much!!!!!
Na that sounds about right from an Aus dealer
If you buy direct from the US you can get them for around $900-$1000 aus dollars or so.
But I just found out that Calmini wont take Mastercard unless it has a US billing address .
They want payment wired to them (direct money transfer).
How do I do this? Is it as simple as doing a transfer into an Aus account?
Can I just use netbank or is it not that simple?
Paul.

ask them how to do it, they will have done this before and will give yu all the details you need