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difference between high & low mount winch ?

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:13 pm
by lewy
I was just wondering what the difference is between high and low mount winches. Thanks.

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:17 pm
by toughnut
The main differences are that the gearbox and brake systems are external. This allows the gear set to be much bigger (stronger) and the drum does not heat up as much because all the running gear is external. This also allows the running gear to run slightly cooler. The gearbox on a high mount winch is easier to work on and holds more oil which again keeps things a little cooler. That's about all I can think of. :D

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:44 am
by Jeff80
And high mounts are faster, (read alot)and are only available in electric 8000 pound. There are numerous brands, sizes and types available in a low mount and are generally cheaper than a high mount. They take up less room in you bar too. At the end of the day, it comes down to what you are using it for, and what the wallet can provide. ;)

Jeff

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:21 pm
by 80UTE
Himount winches use a counter gear type reduction, use a external brake and have oil lubricated sump for lube (would have to be Warns most oldest, most popular and reliable winch) , low mounts use a compound planetary gear set for the reduction very strong but being grease lubricated generate more heat and require more maint they also in most cases have an internal brake that transfers more heat into the cable drum and thats why there not as suited to using synthetic winch ropes. The Himounts are the best for high usage aplication but most modern winch bars are made to suit the more common compact low mount winch designs.

Wally

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:46 pm
by blkmav
Jeff80 wrote:And high mounts are faster, (read alot)
Not under load, 9.5xp beats an 8274-50

8274-50
6000(2720) 9.50(2.90) 350 amps 4/6620(3003)
8000(3630) 6.10(1.86) 450 amps 5/6290(2853)

9.5xp
6000(2720) 10.1(3.1) 335 amps 4/7400(3359)
8000(3630) 8.8(2.7) 425 amps 5/6940(3150)
9500(4310) 7.6(2.3) 480 amps

http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/src/M8274-50.shtml
http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/95xp_winch.shtml

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:33 pm
by OnPatrol
I wonder what the figures would be with the 6hp motor on the 8274 Hi Mount.

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:42 am
by Jeff80
I have a 6hp 9500xp and it is fast enough but no where near as fast as a high mount with a 6hp, let alone a running 24 volts through one which is FN fast! First time I saw a 24v 6hp high mount in action I was blown away!(Wally!) :shock:


Jeff

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:16 pm
by HG
I was happy with my 9000XD but after seeing the High mounts in action I now feel inadequate :cry:

crap more money thrown at the POS :armsup:

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:02 pm
by NZ4x4
just to sidetrack a little bit, what 6hp motors are you guys using?

we have Superduty winch motors here in NZ that come in 6.8hp more the more interesting one is the 7.8hp motor.
i wonder how fast it will be?

have a look

http://www.traxion.co.nz/product/spec/specSuperDuty.pdf

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:57 pm
by OnPatrol
I have the 6hp from Warn, the same one used on 9.5XP low mount warn winch. The one from Traxion looks interesting.

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:20 am
by Jeff80
Hmmm, very interesting. I havent heard of anyone using these. I see they make them 12 and 24 volt.

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:30 am
by grazza
Are Warn the only ones who make high-mounts?

Anyone with a rough idea what these are worth$$$ ?

http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/src/M8274-50.shtml

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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:04 am
by bogged
grazza wrote:Are Warn the only ones who make high-mounts?
Yes - although there was a photo of a BRAWN High mount in a mag about 3 years ago which never eventuated.

Anyone with a rough idea what these are worth$$$ ?
http://www.bbmotorsports.com.au/category261_2.htm


Price:
$2,360.00
inc GST within Australia

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:28 pm
by jugger
has anybody got any close up pics of a dual motor dual gearbox high mount i have seen one on a winch challage rig but not a real good photo.
i think peter stirling in the landcruser mart 75/100 crusier had one and brent perrit had one on his gold gu patrol at one stage to. any close ups would be apprecitated.

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:38 am
by james feeney
Steve Lloyd from the UK ran one on his trucks for a couple of years but has just changed it for a single gearbox/twin motor setup.
He is due in OZ in september for the XI

JF

this is from an american rig

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:56 am
by james feeney
Or a mate of mine also does this

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:06 pm
by Mousie
ooooooooo there is a few $$ in thoes setups

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:12 pm
by Tiny
I understand Brawn are starting to work on a high mount again, maybe Dave can fill us all in on the progress?

Also if anyone is interested I have an as new highmount here ready to run for $1500.00

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:44 am
by OUTOER
Yes we are working on one but would be unlikely to be available any time soon. We need to do a heap of testing before we would release it to the market. I can assure you when it is ready you will know about it.

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:04 am
by rockhoppa1
They look excellent...but a bit expensive. Will have to save the pennies.

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:39 pm
by rocksteps_hero
Just need two new motors will pay $700 FOR 7 PH thats both motors