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Tyre Balancing

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Tyre Balancing

Post by MKPatrolGuy »

Can anyone recommend some a place in Melbourne's outer east who can balance 36 Swampers properly?

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Post by moose »

beaurepairs !!! canterbury Rd !!!!
up past dorset !!! :D
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Post by MKPatrolGuy »

cool, thanks moose
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Post by srowlandson »

I have found a few of the Aircraft Tyre Joints on Matthews Ave Airport west do a great job and BIG tyres (36" +)

They use the internal Balancing patches... work well, cost a little more, but you don't know em off the first week you have them on :D


Then again, Swampers don't drive to nice anyways, whats a bit of out of balance :roll:
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Post by MKPatrolGuy »

These are more than a bit out of balance, between 70 and 80 they will sometimes bounce off the road :shock: :shock:
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Post by ToNkA »

MKPatrolGuy wrote:These are more than a bit out of balance, between 70 and 80 they will sometimes bounce off the road :shock: :shock:


Saw this with my own eyes :shock:
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Post by srowlandson »

You tried breaking the beads and moving the tyre on the rim ?
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Post by Bitsamissin »

Dave, was that a result of bagging em up on Cockpit ??? :lol:
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Post by MKPatrolGuy »

Nah, they were all out of whack before that trip :twisted: Got them balanced today rides nice and smooth now (as far as swampers go)
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Post by moose »

did Beaurepairs do them ????
how much a tyre ???

$$$ & weight ????
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Post by MKPatrolGuy »

moose wrote:did Beaurepairs do them ????
how much a tyre ???

$$$ & weight ????


Yeah got them done there.

$8 a wheel :D

some took as little as 60 grams, one took 240 on the outside and is still not crash hot (ran out of room) :shock: that is now a rear tyre.

Got them done and drove out and every single weight got thrown straight off, were using light truck weights cos they are heavier and they didn't like the more rounded profile of the speedy rims. So now have stick on weights.

No more bouncing, YAY
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Post by dumbdunce »

hey steve we put your swampers on the balancer at bridgestone, one wanted 300g on the outside and almost 400 on the inside! so no balace. but they're not too bad, even with the SOA and 2" spacers they only wobble a bit between 50 - 80 then they go smooth.

they're almost slicks now :(
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Post by FireTruck »

I just threw 6 golf balls inside each of my 38'5 SX's...

Thought it was worth a try - didn't think it would work - but these things ride better than my 'balanced' 35" centipedes ever did.

Why 6? Read that a guy with 36's used 4 and it worked, and a guy with 40's used 8... had to get out my calculator to take an average of course.
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Post by dumbdunce »

hrm if only I could get golf balls inside tubes ;)
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Post by FireTruck »

By the way, I am running internal bead locks this time (tyrelocks?)... if you don't and you put golf balls in your tyres, at low speed you will hear them dropping on your wheels.

pingidy ping ping ping.

No damage, just an annoying noise.
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Post by CRUSHU »

procomp have a product called "equal" that you put in your tyres to balance them, like truck and tractor tyres, no idea of cost, but there are no weights to loose or cause leaks. 9705 6677
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Post by FireTruck »

you can use balancing powder - which they use in trucks etc - but when you air up and down it becomes a problem... you lose powder, and the valves will become blocked etc.
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Post by dumbdunce »

how about something in between the size of golf balls and powder - a handful of gravel (does it have to be round?) or bb's?
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Post by FireTruck »

have heard of folks using stainless BB's (so they don't rust)... and marbles, but the marbles shattered.

I can't recall off the top of my head, but if you search on POR there will be posts of people using BB's and the exact weight that the put in each tyre.
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Post by Fathillbilly »

i have found that my boggers settle down after about 5 min on the road, they shake the s%^t out of everything before that, but once they warm up and get round again i only get minor vibrations, even at 80k in a :shock: Patrol! and thats with no balancing at all

got to remember swambers are bias ply not radial, and this makes a big differance, to how and when they get balanced.

also mitcham tyres generally do a good job on big tyres
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Post by FireTruck »

Except for the SX's - they are radials I believe.
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