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Spares to Carry on extended trip

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Spares to Carry on extended trip

Post by Escargone »

I am about to depart on an extended trip (12 months) in our Landrover 110 (Isuzu 4BD1T)

The Landy is a 1986 model and has clocked up just over 300000 km. What spares should I carry ?

Are there any special tools that are needed ?


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Post by red90 »

Is the vehicle compeltely stock? Hopefully not, can you list any modifications as that would help. Also how up to date is maintenance?
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Post by ISUZUROVER »

John, the 110 county has probably the strongest stock drivetrain put in a (non military) production land rover. Mine is basically stock except for heavy duty springs and bilstein shocks. I have never had a drivetrain component fail (even on 33's - but I have always tried to think of the front inner 10-spliners and go easy with the right foot).

I have a 110 that is basically the same age and same km.

As well as the usual assortment of tools and recovery gear (hand winch etc) I carry:

Water
Engine Oil
Gear Oil
PAS fluid
Brake Fluid
Rad hoses and fan belts
Spare fuses, wire and continuity tester
Tubeless patch kit
tube
silicone
fencing wire
shock rubbers
(knead it - been meaning to buy some)
Fuel filter
Duct tape/Race tape

If it is a very long trip I carry grease and a grease gun to re-grease the a-arm ball joint, fan belt tensioner, ujs, and tie rods, etc.

If I had spare front halfshafts I would carry them. I also know people who carry one coil spring as a spare when doing trips heavily laden or over very rough terrain.
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Post by red90 »

Yes, Ben, I'm well aware of what the vehicle is all about. :D You seriously need to try harder to break things.

I guess the other question is what you exactly plan on doing. Is it all just bitumen and gravel road or is there off roading planned and to what difficulty level. Depending on your answer it might be wise to have some upgrades.

As a minimum, durable shocks are a necessity for those long dirt road sections.

Some special tools thoughts:
- Hub nut spanner (to dismantle the front end when the 10 spline diff explaodes :D )
- Circlip pliers
- Appropriate closed end spanner for the various 12 point head bolts. See the swivels and the brake calipers.

and Ben, you forgot the Air Filter or should he bring a washable one... :onfire:
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Post by Escargone »

I have been using the vehicle for work so maintenance is right up to date as it is a tax deduction.

Gear box is the LT85 which has the MaxiDrive bearing upgrade.
MaxiDrive locker in the rear.
8 inch rims with 265/70R16 Cooper ST's.
Turbo
LPG fumigation
Polyairbags in the rear.

Realistically most of the trip will be on decent roads, but we will be exploring Cape York, Gulf, Kimberly.

We will be towing an offroad camper which weighs about a tonne when fully loaded.

Should i bother with carrying things like spare universal jts, waterpump, bearings, oil seals ?

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Post by shakes »

I've never been on a trip this size myself... doing the cape and carrying a load a spare pair of shocks n rear springs wouldn't be out of order, oil seals take up bugger all space cant hurt? as with wheel bearings, but there's the point when it becomes excessive and overloaded too from so many spares?
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Post by justinC »

Al,
I would agree with Ben about the list he mentions, and definately don't take the kitchen sink, as too much stuff and weight can cause a failure!

I would seriously think of twin shock rear conversion if you don't have the ride leveller, and uprated rear springs. The rear of these vehicles take a lot of pounding not only on corrugations, but on undulations too. Think how much work the shocks have to do controlling the weight of the rear of the vehicle including all the load, plus the action of the trailer drawbar, and you will appreciate how hot they can get after 3 to 4 hours in 40 degrees doing this...If you have felt/ driven a vehicle on rough roads towing with serious shock fade then you will want to avoid this ever happening again.

I wish we could go away again this year, but I'm planning the Tanami to Kimberlys in '07, so I can wait a bit longer...

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Post by Bush65 »

Al,
Call into All Four X 4 Spares at Kotara and ask for John.

They have a service, where they supply comprehensive spares, then when you return from the trip, return the unused spares. You only pay for the spares that you use, plus a nominal charge.
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Post by red90 »

If it were me, I would consider:

1) Proper front diff like a genuine 4 pinion or Trutrac or M-D with good front shafts.

2) Snorkel with precleaner.

3) Route all breathers to a safer than stock location.

You assumably have Boge self leveler? Make sure it is working OK. Make sure all bushings are newish.

And most of all make sure you have a good working fridge. :D Its farking hot up there.
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Post by Escargone »

Thanks for the advice.

The Boge has long since ceased to work - Several people have advised me not to replace it ! :? Will it be needed with the PolyAirs in the rear ?

The shocks are past their use by date - Perhaps I should go the whole hog and update the coils and shocks before I leave ?

Does anyone have experience with TJM suspension ?

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Post by red90 »

The locals can sprout up better than me.....but when I was in Oz the serious long distance travel guys seemed to believe that the Konis where the only ones that seemed not to die on the endless corrugations. This was a few years back so maybe other brands have improved.

The boge allow better automatic adjustment for the heavy loads while still keeping articulation travel. They are a good idea, but a bit costly to fix. I'm not sure of the overall feeling on the Polyair durability for extended long travel.
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