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Need a Hawse Fairlead

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 11:59 am
by beebee
Can anyone tell me where I can get a cheap hawse fairlead to suit steel cable? I've tried ATECO but they were over $100. I'm sure someone (spice?) said that they were buying them from ateco for under $50.

Need it by next weekend.........

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 12:08 pm
by beebee
If anyone could give me dimensions in the mean time that would be muchly appreciated. I'm building the bar at the moment and will have it finished tomorrow, so it would be good to have it ready to accept the hawse.

I need height, length, thickness and distance between mounting holes.

Thanks guys :!:

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 7:40 pm
by RUFF
The height is 70mm i know this because i measured mine today but its at work. We are buying the last 6 new ones we could find in aus. As far as we could work out they are no longer being made here anywhere in Aus. All 6 are spoken for. But we are going to send one away to be cast up so we should be able to get more within a few months.

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 8:54 pm
by dumbdunce
hey ruff what alloy (steel or otherwise) are they cast from? would it be bad to just cut a length of 65x10mm strip plate and chop a slot in it?

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 8:58 pm
by RUFF
Im not exactly sure what they are made of but its deffianatly not mild steel. They are real hard what ever they are. We will know more when we send one out to be cast.

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 9:09 pm
by dumbdunce
thinking about it, I doubt I could punch one out for under $50 anyway, too much time in the chopping and drilling. Big Shop tools would make a difference.


I've never run one, are they harsh on the cable if they're so hard?

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 9:28 pm
by RUFF
I have used mine for at least a year with no problems but i dont winch all that often. I dont think they realy suit a winch challenge type rig but if you dont winch much and want to get the best approach ange than they are great for that.

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 9:35 pm
by dumbdunce
a few of the winch challenge guys run them. never really asked them about it but there's a lot less potential for bits to break off. with side pull it's pretty easy to bust the side rollers off - easy fixed with bolts replacing the c clipped pins but adds cost to already spendy bit of kit, a real trap for new players :)

I could be in for one anyway, might look prettier on the 80.

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 10:27 pm
by RUFF
The Winch challenge guys are usually using either alloy or Plastic ones as they usually run plasma rop rather than steel cable.

For the terain i drive plasma just doesnt cope. Plasma + Sharp Rocks = :bad-words: :bad-words:

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 11:04 pm
by Surfection
Last time i was over at snake racing they were testing a new billet aluminium hawse, i'd say that would be well into production now so shoot them an email and see what's happening.

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 11:08 pm
by RUFF
You cant use a Billet Alloy Hawse with a steel cable. It will destroy the Hawse the first time you use it.

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 8:06 am
by beebee
Thanks for the height dimension RUFF. Hypolux told me that the hole setout is the same as a roller version so I can go ahead with the build.

Thanks for everyone's help.

PS. A mate spoke to Ateco on Friday and they gave him a price but didn't say anything about lack of stock. Maybe something has changed?

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 8:34 am
by Bush65
One problem that could be encounted when galvanised wire rope is pulled over a hawse fairlead (or seized rollers) is Martensitic cracking in the wires.

This was found to occur with mine haulage systems many years ago so they avoid galvanised rope now. The cause was found to be rubbing friction that causes local heating of minute areas of outer wires, which is quickly quenched by the mass of the adjoining wires.

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 8:34 am
by A1
Well as far as im aware they are still available ordered mine on thursday ive had no calls saying that there is nil stock ................but i guess ill find out soon they should be here by mondy or tuesday ;)



Sizes 298x62 bolt centres @ 254 havent got a width

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 9:12 am
by V8Patrol
" bisalloy " could be worth looking at.......... just a thought !

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 12:29 pm
by POS
V8Patrol wrote:" bisalloy " could be worth looking at.......... just a thought !


I belive that the Hawse fairleads need to be cast!

Cast is slightly softer and also has self COOLING properties in the steel!

In other words the hawse takes most of the heat from the rope and any wear is also taken by the hawse!

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 10:01 pm
by big red
length 295mm=11 5/8"
width 67mm=2 3/4"
thickness 19mm=3/4"
hole centres 254mm=10"

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 10:56 pm
by mickrangie
you can have my cast hawse fairlead if you replace it with an alloy one :P

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 11:28 pm
by landy_man
what about me :cry:

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 12:10 am
by beebee
Thanks for everyone's help. Bar is finished! Just need to wire up winch, get a hold of a hawse and sort out a numberplate mount. If I had a digi cam, I'd post a pic, but trust me - it looks good!

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 2:22 pm
by A1
Well picked up my hawse 2day and had mr ateco called apparently there is NO likelyhood of ever stopping manufacture of these hawse fairleads so im guessin some 1 was pullin anothers leg :roll:

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 11:26 pm
by beebee
I have ordered a billet steel one from Cheezy and it should be here tomorrow :D

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:40 am
by *BESTY*
beebee wrote:I have ordered a billet steel one from Cheezy and it should be here tomorrow :D


I can confirm that it was posted Monday afternoon.


Lurve the Packaging - professional job :rofl:

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:23 pm
by beebee
beebee wrote:I have ordered a billet steel one from Cheezy and it should be here tomorrow :D


Well tomorrow has now become today and it's not here yet! Now I've got all afternoon with nothing to do!

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 1:05 am
by beebee
For others information...

The billet steel one I got from Cheezy is very cool. I'm very happy with it. It should last a lot longer than a cast one.

However I rang my local ARB in Brisbane on the northside and their retal price for a hawse (from warn) is $86. None in stock at the moment and are a few months away as they come from the states. Their # is 07 3266 3255