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Post by newbyferoza »

Hey I went out to Glendon (halfway between warwick and inglewood) on the weekend for my birthday and did some camping and a little bit of fourbying.

Well I have now killed my clutch completely. Just wondering how much for a new clutch and whether or not I should go for a more heavy duty clutch and if so how much

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Post by MightyMouse »

I made the mistake of buying a "heavy duty" clutch plate and cover.....

It works well except it has very little slip - its basically in or out and this is not so great for off roading activities IMO ( its a Daiken Excedy performance unit ).

In hindsight I would probably stick with the heavy duty pressure plate and a STANDARD driven plate - giving you a softer engagement.

Its a matter of opinion I suppose - but thats my 2 cents worth.
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Post by MightyMouse »

I made the mistake of buying a "heavy duty" clutch plate and cover.....

It works well except it has very little slip - its basically in or out and this is not so great for off roading activities IMO ( its a Daiken Excedy performance unit ).

In hindsight I would probably stick with the heavy duty pressure plate and a STANDARD driven plate - giving you a softer engagement.

Its a matter of opinion I suppose - but thats my 2 cents worth.
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Post by MightyMouse »

I made the mistake of buying a "heavy duty" clutch plate and cover.....

It works well except it has very little slip - its basically in or out and this is not so great for off roading activities IMO ( its a Daiken Excedy performance unit ).

In hindsight I would probably stick with the heavy duty pressure plate and a STANDARD driven plate - giving you a softer engagement.

Its a matter of opinion I suppose - but thats my 2 cents worth.
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Post by murcod »

The same mistake three times! Must be a slow learner. :lol:

With the clutch plates from some research I've done it would appear you're best to avoid the "paddle" style clutches. The less surface area of the clutch then the less slip before it engages.

eg. below is a standard clutch

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and here is a performance "paddle" clutch

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A bit of reading here too: http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_0180/article.html
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Post by BORN2RUN »

sorry mate but dat link is no good. can u redo it for us cuz....
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Post by murcod »

It works for me? Must be a cookie thing?

Try going to Austospeed http://autospeed.drive.com.au/ and searching for "paddle clutch" or "clutch plate".
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Post by r0ck_m0nkey »

murcod wrote:The less surface area of the clutch then the less slip before it engages.
It's not the surface area as such, it's the material that it's made from. A standard plate is made from a composite more in line with asbestos brake pads, where as the "paddle" is ceramic. The ceramic grips a lot better then the standard type composite, so allows less slippage.
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Post by murcod »

You can get all type of different surfaces in the paddle clutches from what I've seen. The common factor between them all seems to be that they are all (more or less) an on/off proposition (from what I've found researching.)

From that article in the link:
There are, however, some problems with simply installing a paddle clutch with no other changes. Because the total contact area of the clutch is reduced, the rate of lining wear is increased, clutch engagement is more sudden and shudder can also be encountered on take-off.
The article also mentions the higher drag coefficient of ceramic composites (and higher possibility of shuddering), but the above extract is purely talking about paddle clutches irrespective of material.
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