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I picked up a 96 dual cab last week with only 130000ks and are looking to turbo it. Anyone have any feedback on the various bolt on systems eg. DTS, Safari etc. Also is there any difference between watercooled and oil cooled? Is a boost compensater required? most bolt on systems dont mention one.
Thanks.

mate there's been a bucket load of threads on this
do a search first

turbo ct20
Boost: no more then 10psi on a stock system
run a intercooler
and use a oil cooled turbo

note this is for a diesel
and were ca u get all this

a toyota Surf. rack all the turbo gear u can find off of it and 90% of it will swap over

this u can do for about $500 700
or go out and waste $3g on a over priced turbo kit like a safari and so on

I have done a search, many in fact, here and elsewhere . Most of the info was about surf turbos or didnt mention which brand of system was used. I was after some comparisons or reports on which brand of system might be best.

I had a schwitzer on mine ran well. But like stated easierst way a CT20 off a surf.

Dont run over 12psi max (ran mine on 10psi was good enough for me) or else you will be rebuilding your bottom end. Oil cooled is fine for your diesel, plus less to hook up. Also invest in a turbo timer, saves sitting in the car for 3mins after you arrive at your destination.

easiest way is to use the turbo and manifold off a 2.4 surf. even better if you use the fuel pump off the surf too (has the compenstaor on it). the later water cooled turbo's are proberly better than the early oil cooled ones. hiflowing the turbo can help a fair bit to.

4x4Monkey wrote: or go out and waste $3g on a over priced turbo kit like a safari and so on

Looks like I wasted my money on a safari turbo and intercooler then

But then I might keep it a bit longer than 2 months

The CT20 is a good way to go if your a tight-ass, but its too small for the 2.8s and runs out of puff over 3000rpm. Bottom end torque is great but.

Ultimately the DTS, MTQ etc kits are the best option, but if you want bang for your buck the Surf setup is adequate.

Thanks fellas, im not really in a position to do a surf turbo myself at the moment due to work commitments and lack of a shed. Would a garret turbo generally be considered the best brand?.

I have a 2.8 TD Nissan motor sitting in my shed- I've tried to sell it but not much interest- I wonder if the turbo off this would suit the Toyota well- I think it's a garrett.

I have a DTS on my 2.8 and have had it for about 5 years and have not have a problem with it.
The DTS kit uses an oil and water cooled mitsubishi heavy industries TD04 turbo, i believe this to be better as the bearings in the turbo remain at a more constant temperature giving the turbo a longer life. Under normal driving conditions you dont need a turbo timer as a water cooled turbo however if you are giving the car a flogging just before you stop you should let it cool down before you turn it off.
I also have had a compensator installed and it made the world of difference, you wont get the full benifit of having a turbo without it, you will also get better fuel economy as the pump wont over fuel at low boost and give the correct amount of fuel at higher boost.

Just my experience and opinion.

Thanks fellas, I think i'll go for the DTS/MTQ. Just need to find some cash now.
cheers.

Check this thread out as well. Heaps of good info
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... highlight=

CV Smasher wrote:I also have had a compensator installed and it made the world of difference, you wont get the full benifit of having a turbo without it,

You get the same power without it, just really bad off-boost smoke and fuel economy.

ct 20's are good if your gonna have big tyers on your truck cos they give u heaps down low when your taking off and they are the best sounding turbo goin round... one of my mates has a ct20 and another has a safari with a custom garret core, cost him a packet. The ct20 goes heaps better off the line untill about 70 where the safari revs out better. If it was up to me and they were the same price i would go the ct20 any day, but then again if your doing alot of highway driving the safari would be a better choice because its not running flat out the whole time when your cruisin on 100.

If u want a really good turbo that peforms in the way the safari dose but better i would look at getting a AXT turbo, u would easly be able to rev out to 4500rpm with one of them

Gribble wrote:

CV Smasher wrote:I also have had a compensator installed and it made the world of difference, you wont get the full benifit of having a turbo without it,

You get the same power without it, just really bad off-boost smoke and fuel economy.

So no more power with a boost compensator? seems like a lot of money to spend to save a pup of smoke at low revs ?

whiteknight wrote:

Gribble wrote:

CV Smasher wrote:I also have had a compensator installed and it made the world of difference, you wont get the full benifit of having a turbo without it,

You get the same power without it, just really bad off-boost smoke and fuel economy.

So no more power with a boost compensator? seems like a lot of money to spend to save a pup of smoke at low revs ?

its not just a case of saving a puff of smoke. where talking constant smoke screen smoke

it all depends on our much fuel your pushing in and how you drive it. good drivers will lift their foot as the boost drops, however most drivers won't.

if your running big fuel then a compensater stops that cop attention getting of a smoke screen. with minor fuel increase you can get away without it.

without a compensator doesn't it run lean at higher revs?

So is fitting a fuel pump from a 2LT (as they have compensator) going to deliver enough fuel to the 2.8L or does the compensator bit from this pump fit my 3L pump?

The turbo shops are charging over $1000 for a boost compensator which I think is a bit steep...