Window Nets

Post by **POS** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:20 pm

Is there anyone out there that has experience with these????

Do they come in a standard size or do they need to be custom made???(84 hilux xtra cab)

Also where is the best place to get one from???

Post by **mud4b** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:25 pm

revolution racegear in brissy has these in different sizes.

Post by **humphey** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:27 pm

adrain i got one made by an auto upholsterer for my drag car it cost me $70 for a custom one .u can buy them but they dont fit not in ur applacation.

Post by **POS** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:30 pm

Thanks guys!

Humphey, do you have a ph number of the place that made your net!

70 bucks, man i was thinking a couple of hundred!

Post by **humphey** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:34 pm

i'll get on to it tomorrow an get back to u

Post by **N*A*M** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:42 pm

how do you see outside with nets? it's quite distracting

Post by **MQ080** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:44 pm

N*A*M wrote:how do you see outside with nets? it's quite distracting

much like robbing a bank with a stocking over your head i would think

Post by **POS** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:44 pm

N*A*M wrote:how do you see outside with nets? it's quite distracting

Yes i imagine it would be!!

Thats why i want one soon so i can get use to it!!

My main concern is "how easily can you open it in the event of a roll/fire etc"

Post by **humphey** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:47 pm

its hard enough to see down the side of my 40 series with the harness on let alone with a net on the side . :finger:

Post by **MUSS** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 12:17 am

POS if you know any mates that work on the docks or on trawlers the trawler net or cod end its called (blue nylon) wood work well and they some times give it away for free as the net may be damaged...worht a try ...cos thats what ill be doin :finger:

Post by **V8Patrol** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 9:23 am

POS wrote:
N*A*M wrote:how do you see outside with nets? it's quite distracting

Yes i imagine it would be!!

Thats why i want one soon so i can get use to it!!

My main concern is "how easily can you open it in the event of a roll/fire etc"

Most speedway cars have been running em for years and are compolusory in most classes these days. The release mechinisim is simple... a pin and hole setup one end and usually a seatbelt latch the other this way they are simple to release in an emergency. A well designed one can be completley removed from the car in seconds by either the operators or emergency personal. Some of the drivers in the V8 Supercar class is just starting to fit them ...
There are also various different widths of the web material, select a fine one and the visibility restriction will be minimum
Got to ask ya self ...... is a crushed skull better than poor visibility ?

Post by **N*A*M** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 9:46 am

why do we need nets for fourby's if we wear seat belts? i don't see the need

Post by **Link** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:06 am

N*A*M wrote:why do we need nets for fourby's if we wear seat belts? i don't see the need

It keeps your arms etc inside the vehicle in the event of a rollover.. Saves you crushing them..

Post by **grimbo** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:08 am

also if it helps convince insurance companies that the sport is safe then it can't be a bad idea

Post by **V8Patrol** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:21 am

yer prolly right N*A*M,
When I was racing bikes seriously back in the 80's I had a bad prang, the weeks in plaster and on crutches would have been undoubtbly longer if the quality of my leathers had of been standard, my race set were worth $1000 compared to a std set for road use that cost about $400. The doctors said right from the word go "the skin grafts I would of had to have would have left me in hossy for months."
My father also raced bikes (he won the aussie 500cc GP back in the 50's) and I still get a chill every time I look at his pics.....leather skullcaps .. NO WAY !, he also had a bad fall that ended his career too and again it was the quality of his gear that saved months of hospitalisation.

It wasnt that long ago we were forced to wear seatbelts in cars, that saves thousands every year, we now have airbags fitted and countless more lives are saved.... Whilst 99% of offroaders would never need a window net, I would think that the 1% of the "hard core" drivers that fit them have alot more piece of mind.

I know they are different sports to draw examples from but anything and I mean ANYTHING that improves your chances of survival and or recovery from an accident is worth the inconveinance.

edit: My rig isnt fitted with one......yet if I was to do a "winch challenge" event.....it WOULD be the first thing I would fit, the second would be a full harness and the 3rd a high quallity stackhat...... then the 4x4 prep work would start.... the rig might not make it home in one piece but atleast I wll.

Post by **N*A*M** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 11:16 am

okay i see the point about arms and the insurance now. don't get me wrong, i'm all for safety and i'm slowing getting the equipment for my rig. i also had a bike accident a few years back. it was just on the street but it involved a tarago. i walked away from it and now i've got a fourby.

but i think for offroad, window nets would be a pain. i don't see a problem with just running standard doors and automotive glass. with the window wound up, i think the glass actually adds a lot of stiffness and strength to the a-pillar. i'm saying this not based on any technical evidence but from what i saw when i flipped my car 2 years ago. nets don't give any strength and if it's set up poorly, would probably hinder your egress from a car wreck.

adrian runs half doors so the opening is huge. he did it for extra visibility and now he's thinking of running nets. i would just go back to standard doors.

Post by **Area54** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 12:12 pm

Next year there are a lot of changes being introduced to the comp scene - compulsory window nets are one of them. No net - no start.These are to be fitted irrespective of door/window configuration.

Post by **Kev80** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 5:15 pm

It would be a pain to reverse with nets as i usually hang out the window to see where my fat ass Cruiser is going.

I like the sound of that Prawn trawler netting, still have good visability.

The ASCC rules idicates you need a window net to run, does anyone know if it has to comform to any standards ?

Post by **planb** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 5:34 pm

Area54 wrote:Next year there are a lot of changes being introduced to the comp scene - compulsory window nets are one of them. No net - no start.These are to be fitted irrespective of door/window configuration.

4 point cages are another (cabin)

Post by **big red** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 6:01 pm

i dont think there is a standard for the ones on the ASCC.
it wont worry me as i cant see out of the GU anyway....just point it in the general direction and hope for the best

Post by **big red** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 6:04 pm

the biggest PITA is the helmets we need for next years ASCC, even my head hits the roof just sitting there, way worse when its bouncing...probably break my neck but at least the insurance company will be happy :roll:

Post by **bj on roids** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 6:05 pm

Has anyone seen the orange guard rail stuff they put aound holes in the ground? The council may have some used bunches of that come up in auctions and so forth maybe you could look for it like that through auctions or something?

I saw a few drunk guys staggering home at 3am with reels of it once. I would not condone stealing it as that is against the law. But it mst be available for sale somewhere. Possible a safety company or something.

I know a guy with some he might sell to you :lol:

(just kidding, ROFL)

What comps require netting?

Post by **Kev80** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 6:19 pm

planb wrote:4 point cages are another (cabin)

Only for soft top & FRP (FRP ???) vehicals, 1 chassis mounted roll bar for utes.
Just recomended for others.

Post by **Marshy** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 6:34 pm

bj on roids wrote:Has anyone seen the orange guard rail stuff they put aound holes in the ground? The council may have some used bunches of that come up in auctions and so forth maybe you could look for it like that through auctions or something?

I saw a few drunk guys staggering home at 3am with reels of it once. I would not condone stealing it as that is against the law. But it mst be available for sale somewhere. Possible a safety company or something.

I know a guy with some he might sell to you (just kidding, ROFL)

What comps require netting?

Why would you want to use that sh*t for BJ? You wouldn't be able to see squat if you had that stuff plastered on your window.

Post by **Area54** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:06 pm

Any person who is contemplating entering a competition might want to do some research as to the relevant standards regarding the changes in the rules regarding safety. You'd hate to find out at scrutineering, wouldn't you?

Window nets would have to comply to a standard - materials, mounting system, void size (how big the holes are - whats the point if your head can fit through?) Most competition organisers won't take any chances on insurance...

Post by **RUFF** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:17 pm

bj on roids wrote:What comps require netting?

As of now XRCC is one and also Xtreme Winch Challenge.

Post by **Kev80** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:26 pm

I have the ASCC 2004 rules book in front of me, its fairly vauge about the description of requirements. :roll:

Post by **Liam** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:40 pm

We'll be selling window netting real soon. Just finding out all the pro's and cons of the different manufacturers now.
Dont think it works?dont want to use it? thats up to you. Event organises, scutineers, sanctioning bodies and insurance companies are all pushing for a higher level aof safety as drvers and vehicles get more capable. This'll mean real helmets, netting, roll over protection and less dodgy mods.

Post by **humphey** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:43 pm

with the size off the window net dose it have to cover the whole area of the window . in the case of a soft top cruiser it has a hugh area to cover or can u just cover 3/4 of the rear side near the driver ,

Post by **POS** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:43 pm

N.A.M i totally agree with you that it restricts vision, However if i want to continue Playing at XRCC and the likes then the rules state that it is a requirement!

I also want to get it sooner than later as i would like to drive with it occassionally so i can get use to it!

Like i said earlier, if it means its safer and if insurance Companies think its safer, and if it meens we can continue to run OUTLAW then i am all for it!

I also don't see the point of using anything but the proper stuff!

I have been informed that for about $60.00 you can get a fully custom made one! (thanks Humps)

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