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September LRE and a quick scan though shows that the new defender engine is definatly 2.4 twin overhead cam four valve per cylinder diesal out of the transit, it keeps the r380 and does not get the six speed out of the transit and the big bad news for you vent lovers they have gone and the air con is moved to centre of dash, guess that gives some knee space back
[quote="Wooders"]If ya want a 4x4 camry go ahead & buy a Patrol or Cruiser.[/quote]Rangie with 80s LC diffs, Isuzu 4bd1, Twin ARB lockers, 8000lb Hi mount warn, 315x75x16 Procomp XTerrains
To me it essentially looks like the current defender. What happened to all the hype of it being based on the current disco platform. If I had the money for a new car i would buy one if it came with the disco's diesel and auto along with improved interior. I think the current platform is fine maybe a little overpriced...
-Scott- wrote:Isn't it a bit early in the day to be pissed?
stuee wrote:To me it essentially looks like the current defender. What happened to all the hype of it being based on the current disco platform. If I had the money for a new car i would buy one if it came with the disco's diesel and auto along with improved interior. I think the current platform is fine maybe a little overpriced...
If you think the old one is over priced can you imagine what they going to charge for it now? my guess is around 70K
UK press recently cited the UK factory was 'safe' for at least the next couple of years cause LR had got an order from Italy for 1500 of these plus stronger sales elsewhere. So, perhaps there's not much incentive or need to change it much. Looks like LR's doing the Toyota thing!
Still looks tough though
Nice gq swb ute chop with a huffer for the good times
the transit diesel is a real heap of shit i can tell you right now we get them at work every day with rooted injector pumps and faild timeing chains bent valves fucked heads ect ect there junk
those pics have been around a while now...
most on the UK forums believe that it is NOT what the "new" Defender will look like... and apparently, 1 bloke knows someone who works on production line.. and he reckons those pics are crap...
anyways.. they shooting themselves in the foot if it is...
oh.. and on the exterior pics.. you can still see the vents
yes but as we know the vents on 110 county's here in oz from the 80's wern't able to be opened.
and landrover doing the usual cheap and nasty won't want to make a new bulkhead as tooling would change etc and probably cost more so my guess is they glue/silicone them shut and have no push/pulls inside.
it never ceases to amaze me how such a good idea can be constantly screwed up. the idea of the landrover has got so much potential, there is a market worldwide for it. but the dumb pricks think they have to give in to plastic and bells/whisltes to sell these..... wrong thats what all the other vehicles in there marque are for.
im just going back into the corner now..... to get back tto hitting my head against the wall.
serg
oh and do you think that anyone from managment in LR reads any of these forums like OL, Pirate, Aulro and LR addict
they might learn something about the vehicles and the people buying/owning them
im praying that for the first time in history for landrover that they bring it out with oversized axles, steering linkages and uni's instead of tooth picks for the last 50 years, they have a habit of always having so many good things and falling short with so many little things, love/hate relationship with a rover
9"+ crownwheel front diff
Salisbury Rear
1.5" axles
4 inches more track
BIG ass CVs
Big ass rear trailing arms
Sway bar disconnects
standard Aux fueltank
ARB bar or similar STANDARD
Steering linkage run on the front side of the diff up high.
4L+ turbo intercooled diesel with new 4.2 petrol v8 option
Better looking mags with BFG all terrains atleast
updated dash with Firewall vents
2 inch wider body to help with track coverage
1 inch wider flares on each side to help with the track increase
Less front and rear overhang - Longer wb- 114?
And finally, a partnership between Maxidrive and Land rover so all options will be covered by the factory warranty.
9"+ crownwheel front diff
Salisbury Rear
1.5" axles
4 inches more track
BIG ass CVs
Big ass rear trailing arms
Sway bar disconnects
standard Aux fueltank
ARB bar or similar STANDARD
Steering linkage run on the front side of the diff up high.
4L+ turbo intercooled diesel with new 4.2 petrol v8 option
Better looking mags with BFG all terrains atleast
updated dash with Firewall vents
2 inch wider body to help with track coverage
1 inch wider flares on each side to help with the track increase
Less front and rear overhang - Longer wb- 114?
And finally, a partnership between Maxidrive and Land rover so all options will be covered by the factory warranty.
I agree, its too late for them now. I think they stopped listening after the County and Defender era actually - some may say they never listened AT ALL!!
JC
'92 Rangie Sherwood/turbo intercooled isuzu4BD1 /ACE/ full leather/2.5" exh/2.5" body lift/DeCarbon shocks/LR tanks/LT95 back in and OK now, Sals conversion soon...
landy_man wrote:those pics have been around a while now...
most on the UK forums believe that it is NOT what the "new" Defender will look like... and apparently, 1 bloke knows someone who works on production line.. and he reckons those pics are crap...
63:1 crawl ratio sounds good. A tad more torque can't be bad, and frankly if the thing has better heating/air con, who the hell cares what the facia looks like?
Not sure about the bonnet bulge, but with steel wheels, black grille/surround and no air con nose it'll probably look fine. It's just that the only pics the press get nowadays are the nasty looking XS models - too much chequer plate and silver aerosol paint.
Looks like they've removed the wheelarch boxes from the 90 wagon to make room for the new seats, which to be honest look more comfortable than the fronts!
I hope to god they've moved the second row seats back a bit in the 110 wagons.
Seamus.
PS I don't like the LAND ROVER lettering on the bonnet edge either.
Hmm would seem they have gone a little backwards in there choice of engine,looking at there power figures they are very similar to the 300tdi
The new v8 diesel for next years Rangie sounds sweet 200kw @4000rpm and a massive 640nm @ 2000rpm
6sp ZF auto
11litres/100klm combined driving
43 to 1 low range first gear
I'm off to buy a tatts ticket
"Why do the British drink their beer at room temperature? Because Lucas builds their refrigerators."
defender kev wrote:The new v8 diesel for next years Rangie sounds sweet 200kw @4000rpm and a massive 640nm @ 2000rpm
6sp ZF auto
11litres/100klm combined driving
43 to 1 low range first gear
That combo in the new Defender would be awesome. I bet LRA would sell a lot more Defenders too.
ha same old same old.for how long have Land Rover done a half baked job.they have a market full of BLING SUVs so what do they do,just tart it up and send it out. use the same weak diffs and axles for 50 years.wonder if they have same 100 year old bloke wiring the things up.if so thats great, there is nothing like having all the dash lights go off for no reason at all.just what you need to get you ready on your way to the night club in your BLING SUV.why change a good motor for this Ford thing.Land Rover should come down under and get an idea what people want and need.do this and they would sell a SHIT load of the things. what we dont need is more BLING SUVs.what we need is a real DEFENDER..
defender kev wrote:The new v8 diesel for next years Rangie sounds sweet 200kw @4000rpm and a massive 640nm @ 2000rpm
6sp ZF auto
11litres/100klm combined driving
43 to 1 low range first gear
That combo in the new Defender would be awesome. I bet LRA would sell a lot more Defenders too.
Oh i forgot to add that it is twin turbo
"Why do the British drink their beer at room temperature? Because Lucas builds their refrigerators."
the ford donk is a pos i will tell you right now. and the 6speed is probly same as transit too. the td5 was a real sweet engine why go backwards the artical never said anything about the diffs and axels but the sals rear with decent axels would be fine its that 10 spline front that just junk
was talking to a mate today who drives a ford transit van...... has to tow about 3tonne all day everyday plus stock in the van (plumber)..... parently the diesel sucked at it so his boss got a holden v6 motor fitted to the van.... now they are happy! He said it flys even with the backo on the trailer!!
Did you see the Top Gear episode where they drove a diesel Ford Transit van around the Nurburgring in 10 minutes (very fast). They had a specialist race driver and were passing Porsches and motorbikes in a van.
