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hey all i picked up a vitara frontcut today.its a 2Lturbo diesel with auto
im putting it into a sierra(not for road) and its going to be a pain in the a$$.ill see how the conversion goes and if its good ill be offering these
installed or in a kit.the worst part is the t-case is bolted to the gearbox
but you can get a m/t or a/t out of a mazda with no t-case.

heres some pics.

I believe Droopy_Pete is doing a 2.0 & Auto transaplant, not sure if its a Vit motor though.

He may chime in with some words of wisdom, he has 6.1 tcase so I'd say its utilising the siera unit.

Pete is doing a petrol 2.0 and 4 speed auto, apparently the auto is not all that uncommon in other vehicles some toyota vans run em

Either way .. should be pretty quick in a light weight Zuk .. and man will it be creepy .. not unlike the driver .. I mean slow ... again like the driver ..



I am sure pete will make me pay for that ..

What's the TD from? I thought all the TD Vit's were an engine install done in Europe for tax reasons.....

mud4b wrote:hey all i picked up a vitara frontcut today.its a 2Lturbo diesel with auto
im putting it into a sierra(not for road) and its going to be a pain in the a$$.ill see how the conversion goes and if its good ill be offering these
installed or in a kit.the worst part is the t-case is bolted to the gearbox
but you can get a m/t or a/t out of a mazda with no t-case.

heres some pics.

wtf? a turbo diesal vitara

you can get grey imports from new zealand with the Diesel engine. I thought it was a mazda motor tho. Be interested to hear how you got one and what sort of $$$$

Good point .. what is the mazda diesal motor actually ..

I think you will find the diesel is a Citroen/Peugot engine. The Grand Vitara in NZ is offered with a TD and they just upgraded it this year to a new 4 valve direct injection common rail intercooled unit. Torque increased 20Nm to 270Nm @1750 rpm, Power 80Kw @4000rpm, 6-7l/100km fuel consumptio. but as we have a larger market here of course Suzuki OZ won't offer it, if only they sold less..... is that possible???

How much for the 1/2 cut?

My mistake, the Asian market got the Mazda 2.0 TD introduced in '96 and intercooled in '97 while the European market got the Peugot Citroen 1.9 TD. NZ GV's get the Euro engines.

the frontcut cost $2500.its a mazda rf 2L.it has been avail overseas for a while now.

sounds sweet and torquey should fix any feul bowl starve hmmmmm sounds good on angles?
let us know
i have a diesel fetish too.
but would prefer it for on roadand off road legal?

cj wrote:I think you will find the diesel is a Citroen/Peugot engine. The Grand Vitara in NZ is offered with a TD and they just upgraded it this year to a new 4 valve direct injection common rail intercooled unit. Torque increased 20Nm to 270Nm @1750 rpm, Power 80Kw @4000rpm, 6-7l/100km fuel consumptio. but as we have a larger market here of course Suzuki OZ won't offer it, if only they sold less..... is that possible???

The Peugeot is the European diesel engine. Obviously Suzuki did their own engine deal for other markets with Mazda.


Not bad power spec....... sounds nice and juicy.

I wonder how many people out there now want one for their sierra?

Would be a nice combo in the feroza few engine tweaks and 6:1 transfer gears

rocknferoza wrote:Would be a nice combo in the feroza few engine tweaks and 6:1 transfer gears

AWhy not just get the rocky 2.4 TD??

mud4b wrote:hey all i picked up a vitara frontcut today.its a 2Lturbo diesel with auto... ... the worst part is the t-case is bolted to the gearbox
but you can get a m/t or a/t out of a mazda with no t-case.

Looks great Mud4b... Though it also looks very big - i reckons there may be a tad bit of work to shoe horn that motor into your li'l sierra.

If i'm not mistaken you are putting it into a LWB right? Either way, you may find it worth while researching the cutting down of the vitara x-fer case so that you can shorten the overall length of the setup, and maybe even squeeze a second x-fer in behind it. This sort of mod is becoming a little bit common down here in melb - but i've never heard of it being done to an Auto - so i'm not sure about how it would work.

Then again, Auto + Diesel - it may well work nicely as is even with bigger tyres - there's a g-wagon down here running considerably larger than stock tyres with no changes to gearing and it works very nicely indeed (i.e. the motor and auto may be able to handle all your gearing requirements as is - especially since you can rockhopper the x-fer from the vitara too)....

Cheers.

Hay guys I just signed on. Have been looking at this site for a while so I am on now.
heres a few pic of my DIESEL ZUK have not finished it yey but we are very close to it now.

OH NO it didnt work ,I BE BACK when I get it right

Oops ! how do u delete in here !

I got some steering bits off that one and the rims !! dont throw the front axle away.. I may need one Looks like a good project..

you got the idler arm right?they were not ment to touch it when it had already been sold!anyway the zook turns up tomorrow(its from aust.zoo)
we have got rid of the auto and t-case and have replaced it with a 5 speed manuel only....so we can use the sierra t-case.fitting should not be a major problem.

rocknferoza wrote:
Would be a nice combo in the feroza few engine tweaks and 6:1 transfer gears


AWhy not just get the rocky 2.4 TD??

2.4 TD Dont u mean 2.8 TD
For starters the the rocky 2.8 would probibly be 2 big for the ferozas engine bay.
The 2L TD has got more power and I can get transfer case reduction gears

heres some pics.i think it looks cool.

mud4b wrote:you got the idler arm right?they were not ment to touch it when it had already been sold!anyway the zook turns up tomorrow(its from aust.zoo)
we have got rid of the auto and t-case and have replaced it with a 5 speed manuel only....so we can use the sierra t-case.fitting should not be a major problem.

Yeah, I got it months ago but.. I actually needed the bracket for bits & template to make a new stronger one. I still have the arm and original bracket from mine if u need it..

what are you going to do about a windscreenlooks like that s a hardtop cut down so the cowl is different to a soft top one. How does it run with the diesel in or are these before conversion pics

dick
thanks for the offer but we dont need it.

grimbo
yes these are before pics.it was a hard top.but its not going to be registered.its a filming zook.

I thought I'd heard somewhere that the Rocky and the Feroza were basically the same underneath, it was just the top that was different?

I thought I'd heard somewhere that the Rocky and the Feroza were basically the same underneath, it was just the top that was different?

Wrong and wrong
The early rockys had live axle leaf springs all round. From around 93 on they came with independant torsion bar front end and live axle coil springs at the back.
The feroza has live axle leaf springs down the back and IFS but I think it's different 2 the rocky.

I think there based on the same chassis though but the rocky is a bigger rig then the feroza.
The feroza only came out with a 1.6 fuel injected or carby engine and the rocky came out with a 2.8 naturaly aspirated or turbocharged diesel and a 2 litre petrol engine.
Diffs, gearboxes and transfer cases are different in the rocky and ferozas.











shall I go on

eh when did this topic say 2lt into a feroza or rocky?

anyway the engine is in as is the gearbox and t-case.we had to move it so far back it almost hits the rear body support.

here are some pics of the modded drive shafts.
front was lenghtened (cant remember how much.)
rear was shortened to 295mm(very short i know)
intermediate was made to the size of 210mm

heres another of the intermediate shaft...he done a very top job on this.