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Layover / Inboarding rear shocks ?

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:54 pm
by CWBYUP
Just about to layover the rear shocks of the back of my sierra. Just wanted to know peoples thought on how far in i should put them.

I've got the steel for the top bracket but just not sure where to make the mounts ?

Is there a general rule for this ? Should i just make sure the shocks don't limit travel and thats good enough ?

Thoughts or ideas would be appreciated.

Cheers Nick

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:52 pm
by just cruizin'
Depends on the shocks you are going to use, mine are about 100mm apart from memory

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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:54 am
by bazooked
u will find by laying them over u will greatly reduce the cars handling, and u will not use all of that extra travel u have by fitting longer shox.

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:09 am
by muppet_man67
bazooked wrote:u will find by laying them over u will greatly reduce the cars handling, and u will not use all of that extra travel u have by fitting longer shox.
how do you mean you wont use all the travel? you would only lay them over far enough to fit a shock that is only just long enough not to limit travel?

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:59 am
by bazooked
in my shorty zook with spring over i fitted extra long shoks and layed them over to no real advantage, plus it had yj springs aswell so it had heaps of flex i did not use the full length of the shock with the springs at full flex, so imho there is no need to sacrifice stability and handling for a layover system when it is not necessary unless u got a serious buggy leaf set up, it is not even required for a coil set up which i have on my lwb now and it out flexs the shorty by a long way. so what im tryin to say if ya got a simple sus set up the futher u lay ur shocks over the less of the shock travel u will use.

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:38 am
by Guy
But it also means that you can use a pretty cheapish damper designed for a much heavier vehicle (pootrol, crusier etc) that would normally make a zuk ride like box trailer if you did not gain some extra mechanical advantage over them ..

I agree through that you dont need a terribly long damper to get alot of travel in a layover situation. .(the more the spring compress's the more mechanical advantage you get by an exponential figure)

In an ideal world you would bring the top of the damper up through the floor and run them as close to vertical as possible as close to the end's of the axle as possible..

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:08 pm
by CWBYUP
LOVE MUD This is the current problem, I dont want to cut big holes in the floor of the back but need to in bound them a bit as it compresses to much to use that short a shock.

So basically the consenses in only in bound as much as you need to ?

Cheers Nick

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:09 pm
by muppet_man67
sounds like it.

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:21 pm
by Guy
CWBYUP wrote:LOVE MUD This is the current problem, I dont want to cut big holes in the floor of the back but need to in bound them a bit as it compresses to much to use that short a shock.

So basically the consenses in only in bound as much as you need to ?

Cheers Nick
Thats the idea .. ;)

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:26 pm
by markil
love_mud wrote: In an ideal world you would bring the top of the damper up through the floor and run them as close to vertical as possible as close to the end's of the axle as possible..
;)

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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:38 pm
by nicbeer
Whats the legality of doing this like markil's

Nic

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:48 pm
by bazooked
nicbeer wrote:Whats the legality of doing this like markil's

Nic
who cares?????????? :armsup:

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:13 pm
by CanberraMav
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Not as nice as Markils but it works

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:18 pm
by -ZukChiK-
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Not as extreme, but the new floor has to come up a bit to clear them...

Hey Markil, do you have any more pics of your wheel tubs?

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:41 am
by Damo
-ZukChiK- wrote: Image
That setup looks pretty decent. What shocks are you using there ZukChik?

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:20 am
by ShuDuck
Here is how I did mine, should have munted them a little further apart, but it works great. I had the shocks already so I just made them fit

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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:32 am
by -ZukChiK-
Damo wrote:That setup looks pretty decent. What shocks are you using there ZukChik?
They are KYB ;)

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:14 pm
by Damo
-ZukChiK- wrote:
Damo wrote:That setup looks pretty decent. What shocks are you using there ZukChik?
They are KYB ;)
I thought they looked longer than stock, are they off another vehicle?

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:42 pm
by -ZukChiK-
Damo wrote:I thought they looked longer than stock, are they off another vehicle?
Nope, they are new KYB 'Excel G' - Got them thru 4Play Offroad. They are suitable for zooks obviously but don't know if they were made for other vehicles.

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:01 pm
by markil
-ZukChiK- wrote:
Hey Markil, do you have any more pics of your wheel tubs?
yeah, got a few here from the build.

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