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Post by **vicelore** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:31 am

Hey guys

nearly finished my 2in BL and now my thaoughts are heading towards tiers.

i know 31s are kinda the standard, and 33s are then next step up most guys take.

was just wondering if anyone hits 32s ?? if not are there reasons ? are there less avivable in the 32 size ?

how much cutting would be needed to fit 32s under a WT with 2in spring lift and 2in BL ??

Cheers guys.

Post by **ronoor** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:36 am

i run 32 with 2'' spring and a extended shackles plus a bit of a BFH

Post by **vicelore** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:51 am

bfh ?

sorry never herd that term before.

got any pics ?

Post by **just cruizin'** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:52 am

Just check the widths, you don't want to go too wide depending on your wheel offset as you will hit the suspension etc at full lock.

Post by **vicelore** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:02 am

Hey just cruzin

so u think i could fitt 32s with only 4 inches lift ? no cutting ?

Post by **christover1** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:23 am

bfh = rather large hammer

Mine runs 32's
50mm body lift
40mm spring lift
40mm shackle extension.
extended front bumpstops 20mm
front diff forward 20mm
no cutting on rear.
have cut fronr arches a bit.
I have huge offset on my rims, hence need for more cutting.

I believe with less offset on rims, and longer bump stops on front, they would fit more easily, just a small loss in up travel, which can be got back with a gain in down travel if desired.

taller thinner tyres fit with much less trouble, but not as easy to buy.

christover

Post by **lay80n** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:27 am

I run 32.11.5 TSL/SX swampers. Spoa on flat springs, diffs moved (longer WB slightly) and 15*8 -28 offset. Works fine. I have run my 32's on a spua car with the same wpecs as yours, and they fit with a bit of loving to the seams, and some mods to the bumpstops etc.

Layto....

Post by **just cruizin'** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:59 am

You should start your own thread in the members section. You seem have taken a lot of photos of your mods along the way, heaps more then me anyway. You could show all the pics of the little things that you've had issues with that others may bnefit out of.

greg

Post by **vicelore** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:03 am

Any opinion on brand ?

is the 32 a good size ? compared to the 31 ?

what about model i hear swampers creepers mtr not really sure what i should go.

i want a tyer that can performe in dif surfaces . i have driven mostly dirt mud a little sandstone would like to maybey hit sand. i wont be doin much road driving so road performance isnt a issue.

saying that i would like it to be enginerred some time in the future so a tire thats capable would be nice.

Post by **lay80n** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:21 am

If you want engineered forget any bias ply tyre from the start. There goes creepy's swampers centipedes etc as most of these are bias ply, therefore not legal on a zook.

Search on what people run, ans what they drive.

Layto....

Post by **vicelore** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:13 pm

well the search function gave me stuff all as usual.

but hey they guy on the phone at arb was fairly usefull.

i spoke to hime about some simex 32,9.5, 15s said they wont be able to get enginered but should be great off road.

anyone have experiance with them ?

Post by cj » Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:31 pm

If you think that you want it engineered in the future then talk to an Engineer now. Are you coming to the next meeting because you could have a close look at what christover1 has done to his.

Post by **vicelore** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:33 pm

are yours enginereed ? christover1

they look allot like the simex. tread pattern anyway.

Post by **christover1** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:37 pm

vicelore wrote:are yours enginereed ? christover1

they look allot like the simex. tread pattern anyway.

No.
You can't get tyres that large engineered.
Tho very early zooks have no tyre placard, so legality is unsure.

If you want a car engineered, you must speak to an engineer before starting modifications.

Mongrel tyres are a retread copy of simex, not as good, but ok for the money.

christover

Post by **vicelore** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:44 pm

i herd that i might not have to get my body lift enginered now.
(blokes at arb said there was legistation goin through now )

so if its only my wheels that are a little dodgy i dont mind.

i can always chuck the stockies back on when i sell it.

so u think the simex would be a good choice ?

and yea i had herd that nothing bigger than a 31 can be enginered on a zook with stock axles.

Cheers . btw CJ i would like to come to the next meet where is it at ? would really like to get my tyers 1st tho. so im a bit better prepared comparded to last time lol.

Post by **christover1** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:02 pm

vicelore wrote:so u think the simex would be a good choice ?

Cheers . btw CJ i would like to come to the next meet where is it at ? would really like to get my tyers 1st tho. so im a bit better prepared comparded to last time lol.

Yes I think Simex ET's are very good, but many will disagree
The tyres on this zook are 32" simex
I think cj meant come to a monthly meet at the hall, not a trip meet.

Post by **christover1** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:04 pm

Don't get tricked. Simex also make a Mud Terrain tyre, which is cheap and good, but is not the ET luggy type, and is much smaller

Post by cj » Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:42 pm

Yes, I meant the next club meeting at the hall on the 13th Dec. We've also got the tour of the ARB factory if you're interested on the 5th @ 7.30pm.

Be careful what you hear. The new regs allow for a total lift of 50mm without engineering so that can be any combination of tyre, suspension or bodylift but any thing that lifts it by more than 50mm in total will require engineering and in that case you want to talk to an Engineer first as they all have different ideas about what is acceptable and what is not. Also in relation to tyres the new regs will allow for a maximum increase in diameter of 50mm on the stock axles. What was able to be engineered even earlier in the year is no longer the case.

Post by **vicelore** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:47 pm

have u had much trouble with the kippers christover1 ?

or a tyer with that sort of agressive tread looked over allot ?

Post by **vicelore** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:23 pm

1 more thing do you guys think that the 9.5 is better than a 10.5 i would think they would fitt better. any opinions ?

Post by **christover1** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:24 pm

vicelore wrote:have u had much trouble with the kippers christover1 ?

or a tyer with that sort of agressive tread looked over allot ?

Not a lot, got done for too small a wheel flare, easy fixed.
Was on my plan, anyway.

But I am older and wiser, no offense meant, and I treat them with the respect they deserve, so they treat me kindlier than they would a young bloke.

Keep the car looking stock ish, looking like you have tried to be roadworthy, keep it in good order, especially visible items, and drive sensibly, and you get less trouble.

And never argue at road side, courts are for that.

christover

Post by **christover1** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:27 pm

vicelore wrote:1 more thing do you guys think that the 9.5 is better than a 10.5 i would think they would fitt better. any opinions ?

skinny fits much easier, is less of a kipper bait, often works off road better, less likely to aquaplane on wet roads....but less common, less choices (but thats improving) and often more costly and often need 16" rims.

Post by **Squik** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:25 pm

Jumping in late, but you can get 32x11.5x15 in the Goodyear Wrangler MRTs or the BFGoodrich KM Mud Terrains....both bloody good tyres.

Post by **Taff** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:27 pm

you wont want to run 32s with stock gears

slightly off topic i know

Post by **84ZOOKSTA** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:33 pm

i run 31inch simex extreem trekkers which measure 32 and i only have a 3inch bodylift and stock springs.

Had to remove the front bar mounts and some BFH work.

Simon

Post by **vicelore** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:35 am

Hey taff yea gears are on the way budd.

thanks allot for your info guys. very helpfull .

Post by **vicelore** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:08 am

OK guys hey again.

so iv got my set of 32 /9.5 / 15 simex ETs commin over the counter tonight.

just wondering with 2in spring 2in BL . how much cuttin am i goin to be looking at tongiht ? or is it just gonna be hammer down the seems ?

anyone got any pics of this finished ? does it matter which way u hammer them ? use a steel hammer or a rubber mallet ? sorry stupid questions but never done anything like this so some info would be great. Cheers.

Post by **Nev** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:43 am

personally I hammer the seams so that they go with the direction of a forward moving tyre as thats the direction you will be going most and if they are rubbing on the seams they will slide past rather than catch on them and risk ripping your new tyres to bits.

Post by **vicelore** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:03 am

cant u just bash they left or right ? or do u cut them into sections then bash em up ?

any pics would be very helpfull ??

Post by **jtraf** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:23 am

32in pede is actually a 33in tyre.

If you are not running RUF you are going to have to go mad on the firewall.

My brother is running the same tyres as you with RUF and 50 bump stop spacer and we had to modify both the firewall and the headlight bucket.

Pics in your previous post of what I did to fit 34in swampers....

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic.php?t=92346

You are going to have a lot of fun to make them fit and keep the car looking pretty.....

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