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spring touches Tough Dog shock

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JBE
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spring touches Tough Dog shock

Post by JBE »

Hi people

When I came back from a 1 week offroad trip, I noticed that my rear rhs shock got allmost trashed by my spring (i.e. spring touched shock & rubbed). I’m not too sure if this happens on compression or due to driving on badly corrugated roads.

I have a GQ LWB with a 5â€
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Post by 4Speed »

Space the shock out
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Post by rvh96 »

i had the same prob on my GU you can't space them out far enough as the studs arent long enough .i cut my bottom mounts off and moved them out 25mm and up 50mm for more clearance
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Post by Cheezy4x4 »

Longer lower control arms. :cool:
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Post by its aford not a nissan »

rvh96 wrote:i had the same prob on my GU you can't space them out far enough as the studs arent long enough .i cut my bottom mounts off and moved them out 25mm and up 50mm for more clearance
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man thats way too clean
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its aford not a nissan wrote:
man thats way too clean
x2 lol
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Post by JBE »

Cheezy4x4 wrote:Longer lower control arms. :cool:
Are you talking about adjustables?

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Post by HeathGQ »

JBE wrote:
Cheezy4x4 wrote:Longer lower control arms. :cool:
Are you talking about adjustables?

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doesn't need to be adjustable. Get a set a of lengthened and strength lower and it rotates the diff back to where they normally sit.
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Post by 4Speed »

HeathGQ wrote:
JBE wrote:
Cheezy4x4 wrote:Longer lower control arms. :cool:
Are you talking about adjustables?

Cheers
Joachim
doesn't need to be adjustable. Get a set a of lengthened and strength lower and it rotates the diff back to where they normally sit.
But if you do that then you change the drive line angle and have a zig zag.

We put the the big bore adjustables on mine and just space out the shocks and trimed and bent the lower spring plate tabs for effective balance between the 2, should take a photo but its not as pretty as "its aford not a nissan" no offence but its not.. :oops:
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Post by JBE »

As 4Speed mentioned, vibrations are my biggest concern with the longer control arms and I don't want to solve one problem by causing an even bigger headache.

4Speed, did you just bend your spring plate forward or did you actually cut and reweld?

Does anyone have 1st hand experience with longer lower control arms and what would be the right length for a 5" lift?

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Post by rvh96 »

the shocks hit the coils not the spring mounts they will also hit the bump stop plate, that you can trim back. fitting longer rear arms will push the tyre into the rear of the wheel arch on compression the better way is to fit adjustable upper arms to correct pinion angle but 65mm od tough dogs will still hit the coils the only way to stop it is to move the bottom out at least 15mm or go back to 35mm shocks like EFS or OME
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Post by Mousie »

i also had the same problem...

SOLUTION...

roll the diff with agustable upper arms...

easy as piss.....
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Post by KIWI »

4Speed wrote:But if you do that then you change the drive line angle and have a zig zag.

I thought this had the same effect as adjustable upper arms, and would help get rid of the vibrations associated with lifts :?
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Post by its aford not a nissan »

i thought you were suposed to have the same angle at both unis to eliminate vibration isnt that how they are designed to work or am i way off base

and as for being so clean your forgiven as it is still a fairly new truck and should look pretty for a while :lol:
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Post by rvh96 »

dont worry it has been dirty, truck wash and gerni and its like new again
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Snake Racing drop arms
3rds Rear Arms
Twin ARB air lockers
37" trepadors
ARB bullbar
WARN winch
High flow turbo
3" mandrel bent exhaust
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Post by Mousie »

i have had no issue at all with rolling my diff forward...

if u go to far u get vibrations and what not but if u get it on the rite angle your sweet.!
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Post by silk24 »

Another way to do it is cut a wedge out of the bottom mount and bent it out
It pulls the shock away from the spring
Then all you have to do is weld a piece in to strengthen them back up
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Post by Hulksta »

Cheezy4x4 wrote:Longer lower control arms. :cool:
This is by far the best fix for this ;) ive got 16mm longer for a 6" lift
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upper arms

Post by GQJacko »

had same issue on 5" extreme kit
I just adjusted my upper arms (shorter) and all is sweat - no vibrations
Angle looks better and the bottom shock mounting studs are closer to the correct angle as well.
You would have probably noticed the stud angle when you fitted the shocks.
shorter upper arms also stopped the tyres scrubbing the bottom of the back of the gaurds on full compression (with 33s)

just adjust the upper arms.

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Post by JBE »

Thanks for all the replies guys. Looks to me that the adjustable upper arms might be the way to go for me as I already have heavy duty lower arms.
What frustrates me is that this seems to be a common problem on GQs and GUs and the place where I bought the shocks from claims that they have never heard of this although they sell heaps of lift kits and Tough Dogs. Well, another $400 to spend for a problem, I didn't have a couple of weeks ago.

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