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spring touches Tough Dog shock
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:59 am
by JBE
Hi people
When I came back from a 1 week offroad trip, I noticed that my rear rhs shock got allmost trashed by my spring (i.e. spring touched shock & rubbed). I’m not too sure if this happens on compression or due to driving on badly corrugated roads.
I have a GQ LWB with a 5â€
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:42 am
by 4Speed
Space the shock out
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:09 am
by rvh96
i had the same prob on my GU you can't space them out far enough as the studs arent long enough .i cut my bottom mounts off and moved them out 25mm and up 50mm for more clearance
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:14 am
by Cheezy4x4
Longer lower control arms.
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:45 am
by its aford not a nissan
rvh96 wrote:i had the same prob on my GU you can't space them out far enough as the studs arent long enough .i cut my bottom mounts off and moved them out 25mm and up 50mm for more clearance
man thats way too clean
lol
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:28 pm
by lolergram
its aford not a nissan wrote:
man thats way too clean
x2 lol
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:32 pm
by JBE
Cheezy4x4 wrote:Longer lower control arms.
Are you talking about adjustables?
Cheers
Joachim
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:49 am
by HeathGQ
JBE wrote:Cheezy4x4 wrote:Longer lower control arms.
Are you talking about adjustables?
Cheers
Joachim
doesn't need to be adjustable. Get a set a of lengthened and strength lower and it rotates the diff back to where they normally sit.
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:57 am
by 4Speed
HeathGQ wrote:JBE wrote:Cheezy4x4 wrote:Longer lower control arms.
Are you talking about adjustables?
Cheers
Joachim
doesn't need to be adjustable. Get a set a of lengthened and strength lower and it rotates the diff back to where they normally sit.
But if you do that then you change the drive line angle and have a zig zag.
We put the the big bore adjustables on mine and just space out the shocks and trimed and bent the lower spring plate tabs for effective balance between the 2, should take a photo but its not as pretty as "its aford not a nissan" no offence but its not..
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:12 pm
by JBE
As 4Speed mentioned, vibrations are my biggest concern with the longer control arms and I don't want to solve one problem by causing an even bigger headache.
4Speed, did you just bend your spring plate forward or did you actually cut and reweld?
Does anyone have 1st hand experience with longer lower control arms and what would be the right length for a 5" lift?
Cheers
Joachim
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:05 pm
by rvh96
the shocks hit the coils not the spring mounts they will also hit the bump stop plate, that you can trim back. fitting longer rear arms will push the tyre into the rear of the wheel arch on compression the better way is to fit adjustable upper arms to correct pinion angle but 65mm od tough dogs will still hit the coils the only way to stop it is to move the bottom out at least 15mm or go back to 35mm shocks like EFS or OME
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:37 pm
by Mousie
i also had the same problem...
SOLUTION...
roll the diff with agustable upper arms...
easy as piss.....
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:05 pm
by KIWI
4Speed wrote:But if you do that then you change the drive line angle and have a zig zag.
I thought this had the same effect as adjustable upper arms, and would help get rid of the vibrations associated with lifts
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:27 pm
by its aford not a nissan
i thought you were suposed to have the same angle at both unis to eliminate vibration isnt that how they are designed to work or am i way off base
and as for being so clean your forgiven as it is still a fairly new truck and should look pretty for a while
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:57 pm
by rvh96
dont worry it has been dirty, truck wash and gerni and its like new again
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:21 pm
by Mousie
i have had no issue at all with rolling my diff forward...
if u go to far u get vibrations and what not but if u get it on the rite angle your sweet.!
shocks hitting springs
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:05 pm
by silk24
Another way to do it is cut a wedge out of the bottom mount and bent it out
It pulls the shock away from the spring
Then all you have to do is weld a piece in to strengthen them back up
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:03 pm
by Hulksta
Cheezy4x4 wrote:Longer lower control arms.
This is by far the best fix for this
ive got 16mm longer for a 6" lift
upper arms
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:33 pm
by GQJacko
had same issue on 5" extreme kit
I just adjusted my upper arms (shorter) and all is sweat - no vibrations
Angle looks better and the bottom shock mounting studs are closer to the correct angle as well.
You would have probably noticed the stud angle when you fitted the shocks.
shorter upper arms also stopped the tyres scrubbing the bottom of the back of the gaurds on full compression (with 33s)
just adjust the upper arms.
cheers
Jacko
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:34 am
by JBE
Thanks for all the replies guys. Looks to me that the adjustable upper arms might be the way to go for me as I already have heavy duty lower arms.
What frustrates me is that this seems to be a common problem on GQs and GUs and the place where I bought the shocks from claims that they have never heard of this although they sell heaps of lift kits and Tough Dogs. Well, another $400 to spend for a problem, I didn't have a couple of weeks ago.
Cheers
Joachim