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extended shackles bent

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:37 am
by rockcrawler31
Hi all

i have a set of 2" extended shackles from carrols springs, they've been great but i have noticed that they bend into a parellelogram shape instead of square after being bashed or when the bushes flog out a bit. It looks pretty awful and i can only imagine what it is doing to the steering geometry on road. any kind of side loading, cornering or side slopes make them shift out of square.

I was wondering who makes 2" extended shackles with a welded piece of RHS in the middle to help stiffen them? And how do you go about actually getting the bushes/pins in and out of them.

MILO

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:04 am
by MUD EMPIRE
Common prob. Easy fixed with an outlay of cash. Snake Racing make
them and my fav. Superoir Eng make a bulletproof item.

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:02 am
by ricky1970
I made my first set like that ('H' pattern with RHS welded into centre), pain to fit and the bolts i used as pin rotated. Also squashed the side plates in if you did the bolts up too tight.

Made a new set same patern as origionals (welded in steped pins) but used a bit of hollow bar in centre to suport it, retained with a M16 bolt. Made them greasable as well. Now you can unbolt to change bushes as per origional, you can do the nuts up tight without squashing outa shape and they dont bend (used 10mm flat bar for the side plates).

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:56 pm
by k1barh
go with Superoir Eng. I have them on my MK and they are well worth the money

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:56 am
by rockcrawler31
thanks all for that. will have a look around

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:28 pm
by chunderlicious
hey milo, yours would look exactly the same as superiors, infact so much so i thought they were. check them out first, wills havents bent so far (60 series) and his car flexes pretty huge, but his pins are bent i think??? because they are on an angle slightly.

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:22 pm
by RUFF
Go with the superior ones.

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:23 pm
by MART
For a cheap fix weld the heads of the bolts to the shackle,they should have been a splined pin,with a step on the nut side. The pins should of been pressed in to avoid your problem,cheers Paul

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:06 am
by rockcrawler31
yeah mine have the splines, but they move around inside the plates a little. might try welding the pins in, and welding a h bar to one side and two bolts on the other side.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:49 pm
by MART
If you have got some close fitting tubes,say 4 mm wall,slip one into the other,weld one on one side and the other haha to the other side, this will stop them flexing,no extra bolts needed,simple to do,just leave a gap on the end with the smaller tube to allow for the weld Cheers Paul.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:10 pm
by rockcrawler31
I'm having trouble visualising this last one. any pics?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:36 pm
by MART
Maybe this will help,rough drawing,did it to my old zuk,used scrap metal,Ithink the two tubes had about 1\2 a mm tolerance,say the small tube/solid was 25mm and the other to slip over it,Cheers Paul.


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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:41 pm
by toyrex

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:30 pm
by rockcrawler31
Thanks heaps for that pic. Ahhhh so! Now i get it. Very cool idea.

Thanks heaps.

Toyrex can you PM me with specs and price.