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Lifted Vitara Steering

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Lifted Vitara Steering

Post by Dick »

Hi, has anybody had experience with lifted Vits and the angles of the steering arms? Mine is up about 70 mm in the front and now I have "variable" toe in my steering. The tie rod arm angles now cause a twisting action on the cross arm as you move the road wheel. I was toying with the idea of dropping the idler arm down (and making it stronger)..
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Post by antt »

mines only been lifted about 45-50mm in the front, but i'm not having any steer probs at all.

post some pics of your rig, sounds awesome from your signiture :D
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Post by Charlie »

Hi
I've noticed in a few of the overseas rigs they place towers on top of the struts to give some more length and caster adjustment, are you struts too short ?
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Post by Beastmavster »

Mine's up over 80mm and I havent even loosened the steering off and retightened it....

Gotta do that when I get a chance....
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Post by Dick »

Charlie - yep got inverted mounts and OME struts (until I can find longer ones !) and have fitted camber adj. bolts. Camber been measured as in spec..
Viagra - if you jack one front wheel up and wobble it, does your cross arm assy move and allow the toe in to vary ? Mine does ! measured at 8mm pos to 8mm neg. 16mm variation from the angles. Still steers ok but does not like the bitumen roads with double "hollows". Wear is not too bad either.. I just wanna make it right !

Antt - How does one get a few pics onto this forum ?
thks

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Post by antt »

Dick wrote:Charlie - yep got inverted mounts and OME struts (until I can find longer ones !) and have fitted camber adj. bolts. Camber been measured as in spec..
Viagra - if you jack one front wheel up and wobble it, does your cross arm assy move and allow the toe in to vary ? Mine does ! measured at 8mm pos to 8mm neg. 16mm variation from the angles. Still steers ok but does not like the bitumen roads with double "hollows". Wear is not too bad either.. I just wanna make it right !

Antt - How does one get a few pics onto this forum ?
thks

Dick


go here to find out how to post pics-> http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... php?t=6162
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Post by Beastmavster »

Dick wrote:Charlie - yep got inverted mounts and OME struts (until I can find longer ones !) and have fitted camber adj. bolts. Camber been measured as in spec..
Viagra - if you jack one front wheel up and wobble it, does your cross arm assy move and allow the toe in to vary ? Mine does ! measured at 8mm pos to 8mm neg. 16mm variation from the angles. Still steers ok but does not like the bitumen roads with double "hollows". Wear is not too bad either.. I just wanna make it right !

Antt - How does one get a few pics onto this forum ?
thks

Dick


How you do camber adjust? Custom adjustable camber bolts?

I think so. I am getting some noises I never got before.... but I know my left front wheelbearing is on it's way out so I wouldn't read much into it other than the wheel bearing i sstuffed.
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Post by Dick »

I did it with two high tensile Caterpillar bolts, one size smaller than std. With hardened flat washers either side. This allows the strut to "lay in" just enough. There is no way it will ever move.. Plus I replaced the lower bolts as well. Easy as !! :)
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Post by Beastmavster »

Dick wrote: There is no way it will ever move.. Plus I replaced the lower bolts as well. Easy as !! :)


You're just not hitting them hard enough :D

Sounds like it would slip the way i drive mine (I've popped some seams from impacts offroad).

mind you better to give there than in other spots and it would be easy to put back in place if it's all nicelty marked....
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Post by Dick »

Here is a pic, havent got many good ones as I am always in the thing !
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Post by Dick »

and one more.. before my new bar on the rear..
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Post by antt »

i'm sure i've seen pics of your vitara before somewhere, recognise the lions plates.

another quick question. what brand are your roof racks? i'm looking at getting some and yours look pretty smick :)
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Post by Dick »

Mine are RAK brand.. make no noise at all...
I joined the North Bris Suzi Club, good bunch... Prob seen pics of me bogged !! (before lockers)
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