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uterize or wellback it

Post by rockcrawler31 »

Hi all

i have a chap here who will be helping me do a roof chop on the troopy, but i also have an idea to make it into an extra cab

here are the two ideas

1. cut off the roof, ROPS bar where the c pillar used to be so i can still have second row seats. soft top that goes back level to the rops and then as a fast back to the tailgate.

2. take out the middle section of the truck and bring the rear of the truck forwards as an extra cab. instead of having a full dual cab i would have two sidwards facing seats behind the main seats so that i could either have a pair of passengers or an internal load space. This way i could avoid having a full length dual cab but still have passengers.

What am i trying to achieve? I want to get as much weight off the rear (weighs a fair bit and won't flex in the rear as i need HD springs), get as much weight off up high so it's safer off road and so i can put a body lift in (to fit 37's). I'd like it to perform better in the hardcore stuff, as well as still be fairly practical for touring.

What are your thoughts on the pros and cons of each idea? They will both cost similar in the end. And don't say buy a patrol or 80x, i need the high roof line up front as i've had a broken neck in the past.

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Post by jet-6 »

Get a few clear side on pics of one, something with nothing but sky or simple objects in the back ground, im keen to have a chop
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Post by rockcrawler31 »

IMG]http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h228/ ... 0003sm.jpg[/IMG]

one i found off the interweb

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the original

[IMG]http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h228/ ... 1small.jpg[/IMG]

and Jet-6's effort. thanks mate.

christover is doing one for me too i hope.

so what do you reckon. i think that the open wellback ute is a bit more original but will still suffer from dragging it's arse and is insecure
the extra cab ute is good but still has more up top stability wise, but it's secure and i could put a pair of small side facing dickie seats in it.

edit. i'm also wondering how it will look with the second row of seats and seat back sticking up above the sides as well as having a roll bar in the middle. would it look silly?


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Post by CWBYUP »

Just wondering a few things.

Why not just cut the guards to fit the 37s and then go xc ute with a tray and maybe a canopy ?

Just wondering as i personally think it would look better to do a stretched ute syle look with flat roof. But thats just me.

Or we could just go crazy and do xc style with suicide doors :shock: :shock:

If your going to run a cage tied into the body work its actually not that hard.

I'll have a play with a chop and see how i go.

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Post by CWBYUP »

Just wondering a few things.

Why not just cut the guards to fit the 37s and then go xc ute with a tray and maybe a canopy ?

Just wondering as i personally think it would look better to do a stretched ute syle look with flat roof. But thats just me.

Or we could just go crazy and do xc style with suicide doors :shock: :shock:

If your going to run a cage tied into the body work its actually not that hard.

I'll have a play with a chop and see how i go.

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Post by jet-6 »

Pics/links are not set up right, just use thumb nails for them, link them to the main pic/s
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Post by rockcrawler31 »

yeah i know. i can never seem to get the pics to work. i put in the right tags but it only seems to show the url. if you cut and paste the url it should work for you

the reason i want the roof off it is to get rid of the weight up top so it's more stable, also, if i just chopped the guards it would be harder than you think because wheel wells wouldn't be tall enough without a body lift. so if i have to body lift i have to choptop :D
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Post by rockcrawler31 »

yeah i know. i can never seem to get the pics to work. i put in the right tags but it only seems to show the url. if you cut and paste the url it should work for you

the reason i want the roof off it is to get rid of the weight up top so it's more stable, also, if i just chopped the guards it would be harder than you think because wheel wells wouldn't be tall enough without a body lift. so if i have to body lift i have to choptop :D
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Double, sorry
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And tripple, lol
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Post by rockcrawler31 »

thanks guys,

come on all. which one is a better idea do you think. Someone pointed out to me that anyone in the second row of seats might be a bit antisocial
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Post by chunderlicious »

extracab tray back
turbos are nice but i'd rather be blown
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Post by batcho101 »

some ones surely got pics of jason lowes extra cab troopy with the v8 diesel its not a bad chop
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Post by Tooheys »

I like the extra cab wellback. Its different and would stand out. Only thing i dont like is the angle of the roof, I think it should be flattened out a little bit and the extra cab window not so high into the roofline.
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Post by GQ4.8coilcab »

christover1 wrote: Image
that would be alright if you flattened the roof out like a 75 series single cab
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Post by rockcrawler31 »

I've seen jason's extra cab in person. It's a bit rough and ready but i like the idea. he says it don't feel too tippy anymore, anyone wheeled with him can back that up?
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Post by rockcrawler31 »

I need to keep the high roof otherwise i would have just gone and bought a ute. I've got some probs with my neck and i can't have the risk of hitting the roof like i could in a standard ute
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Post by jugger »

theres a poo brown one at the rebank qr workshops with an exocage looks awsome.
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Post by g60boy »

mmmm.... short tub
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Post by rover1 »

i vote x-cab with tube tray, the less panels you have to dent the better
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Post by Sixty »

g60boy wrote:mmmm.... short tub
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High roof Middie....?
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Post by chunderlicious »

Sixty wrote:
g60boy wrote:mmmm.... short tub
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High roof Middie....?
that looks good
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Post by rockcrawler31 »

thanks all. i'm beginning to think that the practicalities of an xtra cab outweigh the uniqueness of an open back
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Post by rockcrawler31 »

thanks all. i'm beginning to think that the practicalities of an xtra cab outweigh the uniqueness of an open back
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