Any one doing J7

Post by **MjWatt** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:55 pm

I think they should be allowed to come and compete without waiting, as long as they know that the event is for the little guys and they dont go all stupid and sit there and dig holes to china. (not having a dig at anyone)

Also, when you have to tell ppl to wait till last, or turn them away from an event, it makes running an event so much more complicated.

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:57 pm

yeah totally agree,

i would like them to be there, buy as you said, think about us smaller cars,

Post by **Hekta** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:00 pm

Will you even be running the same tracks as them, what class will you be in ?
If the tracks are setup for 44's like Tiny said is in the rules, then they shouldn't pose a problem to the 49's that Pete and Phil are running especially in their trucks with rear steer & hyro suspension. If you get there first on the day you will get to do the track before anyone else anyway.

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:02 pm

im in open class, i may end up in outlaw,

Post by **thunder** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:05 pm

bucketofbolts wrote:its not that i don't want to see them, they dig big holes for us to try to get through,

if you have ever followed these guys, like duckies dam at the trials, you will know what i mean,

they draw the crowd so why not, but the event isn't designed fot them, they have there chance this weekend,

i followed glen at the trials 2 yrs ago and i drove it.(he.glen did drive soft in the mud)

I think let them be part of it..
One of my mates remember pete in his tow 4x4 the ford try to drive the hill climb at Dunedoo.funny story

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:09 pm

yeah but your trucks pretty bloody capable,

Post by **ET4Runner** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:26 pm

The debate on pros & cons of the 'big boys' is interesting.

Keep in mind the whole concept of Jamborees. They started as a get-together for 4WD clubs, so anybody could have a go. That included standard to heavily modified. In the beginning, 'modified' was pretty much a set of muddies

, not the high-tech engineering marvels we see around today.

The other comps (as I understand it) evolved from (or around the same time as) the Jamborees; those events were more of a 'competitive' nature, and that's what further triggered the evolution into the high level of mods. The whole concept of the Jamboree is 'have a go and have fun', not win at all (or any

) cost.

Now I'll don the 'Flame Suit'.....

I'm quite happy seeing Glenn, Pete, Athol and others at events their trucks were built for. The Jamboree is about participation, not a demo for Tuff Trucks. If they are not permitted to participate (on vehicle-specific tracks made only for them), then why bother.

Of course, we'd all love to see Pete, Glenn, Athol etc participate if they spend $2000 on an MQ or Pajero and have a go in standard form.......

JMO

Post by **Tiny** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:41 pm

bucketofbolts wrote:and thats why at tuff truck, they run the mud event smallest tyres first and then up,

you sure

anyway I will be there with 44s on so you better get in before me

it says white clearely there will be different tracks for the bigger trucks, and for those who went to j5 will know that many of the tracks were great at the start...I ran early with a rediculous loading with 35s because I wanted to have fun, the tracks were difficult, but by the end of the weekend after a couple of hundred trucks flogged the crap out of them a mini moke could drive it

Post by **ET4Runner** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:22 pm

Tiny wrote:..... for those who went to j5 will know that many of the tracks were great at the start...I ran early with a rediculous loading with 35s because I wanted to have fun, the tracks were difficult, but by the end of the weekend after a couple of hundred trucks flogged the crap out of them a mini moke could drive it

Know what you mean

We had real issues with the Hill Climb.....

Had a bugger of a time firstly getting a suitable location for our track, only to hit a water pipe

, then be refused a really good hill, then finally work with the small incline we received. We made it interesting with some obstacles and wombat holes, angles and so on. But the ground was quite loamy, and after a few bigger units (probably YOU Tiny

)cut the tops off and filled a few holes, well, you know the rest......

Cest La Vie

Post by **Tiny** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:35 pm

ET4Runner wrote:
Tiny wrote:..... for those who went to j5 will know that many of the tracks were great at the start...I ran early with a rediculous loading with 35s because I wanted to have fun, the tracks were difficult, but by the end of the weekend after a couple of hundred trucks flogged the crap out of them a mini moke could drive it
Know what you mean We had real issues with the Hill Climb.....

Had a bugger of a time firstly getting a suitable location for our track, only to hit a water pipe , then be refused a really good hill, then finally work with the small incline we received. We made it interesting with some obstacles and wombat holes, angles and so on. But the ground was quite loamy, and after a few bigger units (probably YOU Tiny )cut the tops off and filled a few holes, well, you know the rest......

Cest La Vie

I ripped the crap out of one section, one of my mates skipped one of the big wombats and dug he bull bar into a mound, the following recovery took half the mound out

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:55 pm

the last tuff truck i went to, the order was determined by tyre size,

anyway, i agree with et4runner, this event was ment for daily drivers to part time comp cars, not $100,000 + comp trucks,

as i said, i would like to see them there as most people would, but with in reason,

and tiny, i won't be far behind you,

cheers ray

Post by **Tiny** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:00 pm

bucketofbolts wrote:the last tuff truck i went to, the order was determined by tyre size,

anyway, i agree with et4runner, this event was ment for daily drivers to part time comp cars, not $100,000 + comp trucks,

as i said, i would like to see them there as most people would, but with in reason,

and tiny, i won't be far behind you,

cheers ray

agree and understand the concept, but at the same time the comp guys want as much sat time as they can get, so fo the sake of some harder tracks the big blokes should be able to have a run

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:05 pm

yeah, let em run i reckon, bigger draw card and at the end of the day, fun will be had, meet up with everyone, and have a great weekend,

cheers ray

Post by **MjWatt** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:20 pm

Another way would be to let them run first on the hill climb for example to show everyone how its done... then its a level playing feild for all!

but i'll be there and having fun

sober or not

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:30 pm

get them to spit all the loose stuff out,

you won't be sober, i'm sure i won't be once i'm finished driving,

cheers ray

Post by **Nelso** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:23 pm

I think it's a great idea for everyone who's part of the 4wd community to be involved in the Jamboree, including the big boys that don't qualify. Isn't the day about inclusion after all? Let them participate without competing I say.

Post by **Vulcanised** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:12 pm

i'm looking forward to it

Gonna drive down on 33's and put the 38's on for play time.

Post by **thunder** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:47 pm

Patrolden wrote:i'm looking forward to it Gonna drive down on 33's and put the 38's on for play time.

join me in outlaw

Post by **Tiny** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:50 pm

thunder wrote:
Patrolden wrote:i'm looking forward to it Gonna drive down on 33's and put the 38's on for play time.
join me in outlaw

looks like there is a few of us in outlaw

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:07 pm

probarly more in open and outlaw then anything else,

can't wait,

cheers ray

Post by **Tuff Events** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:29 pm

bucketofbolts wrote:theres now doubt they are a crowd fav,

but thats why there tuff truck and woodpecker and willowglen, please something for us,

see what happens, might buy bigger tyres,

How is us driving for fun & no points, not giving something to you.
Think about it.

Willowglen is not for us either. Largest tyre is a 36or37..You have far more events available to you that us.

Keep it fun, we don't dig holes very often if at all & I was'nt even at Nissan Trials last year...

Post by **Tiny** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:40 pm

TEAM OPW wrote:
bucketofbolts wrote:theres now doubt they are a crowd fav,

but thats why there tuff truck and woodpecker and willowglen, please something for us,

see what happens, might buy bigger tyres,
How is us driving for fun & no points, not giving something to you.
Think about it.

Willowglen is not for us either. Largest tyre is a 36or37..You have far more events available to you that us.

Keep it fun, we don't dig holes very often if at all & I was'nt even at Nissan Trials last year...

were ya scared Chris would make the tracks to hard for ya

yeah I would like to see more short course stuff here, its not like most of the trucks set offor

these comps are any good for whinch chalenges etc and there is not many of them in NSW anyway

cmon pete sort out a new comp, I will get involved

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:45 pm

i'm happy for you to drive pete, and glen,

it's up to the organisers, and i remember at crawlerkhana, glen had his truck there, and everyone loved it, the kids especialy

just run your 44's and have fun,

cheers ray,

p.s looking forward to this weekend,

Post by **Vulcanised** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:47 am

thunder wrote:
Patrolden wrote:i'm looking forward to it Gonna drive down on 33's and put the 38's on for play time.
join me in outlaw

i will have to...... not driving it with the 33's on it.... looks very heath ledger

Post by **MjWatt** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:38 am

Bring on the 49' Swampa Pete!

Someone has to dominate the Outlaw Track on the hill climb!

Not that tiny wont give it a red hot go too!

Cant wait!

Post by **DIRTY ROCK STAR** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:24 am

Surely by this time a couple more weeks away,
isnt there the chance of someone running the new bigger BOGGERS from the states???

Post by **BIG ZOOK** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:31 am

i'll be there having fun at J7 with the club and no one will have any concerns with my little 39inch tyres and my gutless 1.6litter motor.... i don't think i'll be digging any holes...

I didn't spend all this time and money on my truck to leave it sitting in the damn garage thats for sure! oh yeah lets drive

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:53 am

yeah bring it on,

can't wait,

and thats enough out of you drs, i will have enough to contend with,

cheers ray

Post by **Tiny** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:05 am

MjWatt wrote:Bring on the 49' Swampa Pete!

Someone has to dominate the Outlaw Track on the hill climb!

Not that tiny wont give it a red hot go too!

Cant wait!

might have to find a source of CVs

Post by **Hekta** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:02 am

DIRTY ROCK STAR wrote:Surely by this time a couple more weeks away,
isnt there the chance of someone running the new bigger BOGGERS from the states???

Pete, you would have a set of the 54's by now wouldn't ya ?

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