Nutter Engineering Turbo Conversions (Dial Up Will Die)

Post by **tufenuf** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:00 pm

you dont have to have a blow off valve i have a xr6 turbo with 70000k 17 puond boost and 348rwkw no damage to the turbo. the resons skylines do turbos with no blow off valve is cause there a poor quality turbo. no nizpro kit for a falcon runs one

Post by **NutterGQ** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:18 pm

tufenuf wrote:you dont have to have a blow off valve i have a xr6 turbo with 70000k 17 puond boost and 348rwkw no damage to the turbo. the resons skylines do turbos with no blow off valve is cause there a poor quality turbo. no nizpro kit for a falcon runs one

Sylines run high quality garrets but ceramic wheeled thats the weakness.

Post by **offroader-rama** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:24 pm

i could be wrong but i thought all skylines had blow off valves factory that plumbed them back into the intake

Post by **NutterGQ** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:25 pm

offroader-rama wrote:i could be wrong but i thought all skylines had blow off valves factory that plumbed them back into the intake

your correct, most factory cars do

Post by **Brunsy** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 8:18 am

Mild steel is fine for pipework, some of my old cars are still getting about 12 years later on the same engines, turbo/cooler combos. The internal surfaces do get coated with a greasy film as the turbo seals will let some oily mist thru and as will the PCV if connected. If in doubt pull a oil soaked rag thru your pipes at service time.
Nice Job Nutter, let me know how these ebay exaust manifolds hold out as im itching to get my hands on another RB30 this time into my shorty.

Post by **ookami** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:42 pm

tufenuf wrote:you dont have to have a blow off valve i have a xr6 turbo with 70000k 17 puond boost and 348rwkw no damage to the turbo. the resons skylines do turbos with no blow off valve is cause there a poor quality turbo. no nizpro kit for a falcon runs one

What? Hardly call a HKS turbo poor quality. You turbo will die sooner or later.

Post by **NutterGQ** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:24 pm

Mine is Chinese but not from ebay so not sure if there out of the same plant or not, but thanks all the same its come togerther nicely.

Post by **nastytroll** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:44 pm

it was posted earlier in a different post that falcons run the same bosch BOV that BMW n Porsche use

Post by **offroader-rama** » Tue May 01, 2007 8:32 am

do xr6 turbo's not run bov or are they just deverted back into the intake so you cant here them sneeze???

Post by **choppa1978** » Tue May 01, 2007 10:16 am

the china manifolds are good if they fit on the studs properly also i alway machine the flanges true so they dont blow gaskets my rb26 used a china manifold had no dramas,

Troppo i use the standard rb30 patrol gearbox, and yes i have like 4 spares as thay dont last long, its low as i used it on the street for playin a fare bit and wanted to get rid of the body roll,

Post by **Gwagensteve** » Tue May 01, 2007 2:57 pm

tufenuf wrote:you dont have to have a blow off valve i have a xr6 turbo with 70000k 17 puond boost and 348rwkw no damage to the turbo. the resons skylines do turbos with no blow off valve is cause there a poor quality turbo. no nizpro kit for a falcon runs one

Yep.... right on.

Your XR6 turbo uses a bosch blow off valve. It isn't shiny or go kerchhhooo so you might have trouble recognising it.

Simon Gishus (nizpro) uses motec controlled blow off valves to control boost rather than wastegates. This is unusual, but he swears by it for steady boost control. These are also bosch blow off valves.

The only people who run without BOV's I have ever heard of are Veilside, in their drag cars. Their reasoning is that the engine is never off boost in the run so there is no need. If they smash the turbos when they shut the throttle at the end of the run, no big deal

Post by **NutterGQ** » Tue May 01, 2007 6:41 pm

Probably shouldn't turn this into yet another bullshit thread about blow off valves, I don't run one, never have can we leave it at that. If you want to argue the fact join a ricer site and go nuts, leave this for peeps who have questions about the install.

Post by **Mulisha** » Tue May 01, 2007 6:53 pm

NutterGQ wrote:Probably shouldn't turn this into yet another bullshit thread about blow off valves, I don't run one, never have can we leave it at that. If you want to argue the fact join a ricer site and go nuts, leave this for peeps who have questions about the install.

Can u tell me how much rwkw and rw Tourqe figures u got?

Thanks

Rick.

Post by **offroader-rama** » Tue May 01, 2007 7:25 pm

diddo,
and how much dollars spent ruffly for the gas reserch set up under engine bay converter/ mixer, not tank and insterlation

Post by **NutterGQ** » Tue May 01, 2007 7:43 pm

gas research install was free as i supplied the tank and the government grant covered the rest....thanks centrelink

i'm going next week i think to get the compliance plate and power figures, i'm not that keen to know so haven't rushed over or called him.

Post by **Mulisha** » Tue May 01, 2007 7:54 pm

NutterGQ wrote:gas research install was free as i supplied the tank and the government grant covered the rest....thanks centrelink

i'm going next week i think to get the compliance plate and power figures, i'm not that keen to know so haven't rushed over or called him.

U should be keen as i'm really interested into seeing the dyno sheet to see were it makes boost and tourqe etc etc

Rick.

Post by **Turoa** » Sat May 12, 2007 8:40 pm

NutterGQ wrote: i'm going next week i think to get the compliance plate and power figures, i'm not that keen to know so haven't rushed over or called him.

Any power figures yet?

Post by **Mulisha** » Sat May 12, 2007 10:31 pm

Turoa wrote:
NutterGQ wrote: i'm going next week i think to get the compliance plate and power figures, i'm not that keen to know so haven't rushed over or called him.

Any power figures yet?

I pm'd him asking so i'm waitting as well

Post by **NutterGQ** » Thu May 17, 2007 10:01 am

Haven't been to see them, have way too much on, I will do it I haven't forgotten about you guys lol

Post by **NutterGQ** » Sun May 27, 2007 8:03 pm

dead link

Post by **turps** » Sun May 27, 2007 8:09 pm

NutterGQ wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxZT-Setexs

Sorry haven't got a power figure yet, but have put up another video, really not interested if your gonna give me hard time for doing a burnout though.

If anything bit girly. Wheres the smoke.

Post by **Mulisha** » Sun May 27, 2007 8:10 pm

NutterGQ wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxZT-Setexs

Sorry haven't got a power figure yet, but have put up another video, really not interested if your gonna give me hard time for doing a burnout though.

mate that is so childish u should grow up and get a life so dam stupid someone could have been killed or even a animal run over for god sake !
Vids like this make me want to go and kill you!

Only joking mate ur car seems to really spin those tyres fairly easily makes me wanna put some old 31's on and do a burnout now !!

What clutch u using by the way and how is it holding up to the hp?
Dyno sheet would be good

Nah mate u really mad a animal of a car goes hard !

Rick.

Post by **NutterGQ** » Sun May 27, 2007 9:00 pm

its running an excedy sports, installed it the day after the turbo cause it blew the first one up as soon as it came on boost. No slip, light pedal so far soo good.

It would have smoked more if the tyres weren't a 100 years old, they came with the car god knows how old they are, The 35 inch BFG's smoke nice as, but body rolls too much when you fling it round.

Post by **Vulcanised** » Mon May 28, 2007 7:48 pm

i like it

gets movement happening

Makes me want to put a hair dryer on the V8

Post by **NutterGQ** » Mon May 28, 2007 10:11 pm

Patrolden wrote:i like it gets movement happening Makes me want to put a hair dryer on the V8

Greedy bastard

Post by **Vulcanised** » Tue May 29, 2007 5:16 pm

NutterGQ wrote:
Patrolden wrote:i like it gets movement happening Makes me want to put a hair dryer on the V8
Greedy bastard

i can be

Post by **Mulisha** » Tue May 29, 2007 5:44 pm

How do 5.0L and 5.7L v8's compare with the Tb42 turbo and RB30 turbo?

What RWKW or RWHP and tourqe figures are we looking at from the 4 ?

Cheers

Rick.

Post by **NutterGQ** » Tue May 29, 2007 10:53 pm

Mulisha wrote:How do 5.0L and 5.7L v8's compare with the Tb42 turbo and RB30 turbo?

What RWKW or RWHP and tourqe figures are we looking at from the 4 ?

Cheers

Rick.

I'm a V8 boy I own a gen 3 VX Clubby and 520ci ford big block in my XB coupe, from an unopened Gen 3 you make 240-245rwkw unopened, great thing is there all the same except the C4B motor, so even a VT exec makes a good donor car.

VX has slightly better intake, vy onwards have higher ring tension, power wise not much in it. Problem is there running a plastic intake so the only way you can run LPG is to inject em or put an after market alloy manifold that costs as much as the motor.

I know the 5.0 is popular with some of you here but they suck. Save your breath I have done em up for customers and in my opinion there a waste of money, with a reasonable cam, extractors, pipes, tune and all other associated bits they only make 165kw to 180kw, you can buy a GEN 3 these days from $1500-$2000 much better proposition.

Website · Post by **GRINCH** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:57 pm

hey nutter are you running the gas research closed loop system on yours or is it just the basic throttle body. have you had a chance to work out what sort of fuel economy your getting?

Post by **marko** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:36 pm

NutterGQ wrote:
Mulisha wrote:How do 5.0L and 5.7L v8's compare with the Tb42 turbo and RB30 turbo?

What RWKW or RWHP and tourqe figures are we looking at from the 4 ?

Cheers

Rick.
I'm a V8 boy I own a gen 3 VX Clubby and 520ci ford big block in my XB coupe, from an unopened Gen 3 you make 240-245rwkw unopened, great thing is there all the same except the C4B motor, so even a VT exec makes a good donor car.

VX has slightly better intake, vy onwards have higher ring tension, power wise not much in it. Problem is there running a plastic intake so the only way you can run LPG is to inject em or put an after market alloy manifold that costs as much as the motor.

I know the 5.0 is popular with some of you here but they suck. Save your breath I have done em up for customers and in my opinion there a waste of money, with a reasonable cam, extractors, pipes, tune and all other associated bits they only make 165kw to 180kw, you can buy a GEN 3 these days from $1500-$2000 much better proposition.

Does that mean you get 250rwkw with just a tune, intake and a exhaust upgrade. thats a big increase in hp from standard for 5.7 gen111, aren't they only around 255kw engine. Are your figures from a egine in a holden or the engine in a patrol.
If that is in a patrol you must have magic tune going on, don't foget patrols can lose up to 50% depending on diff, tyres etc, through the drive line.
So that make it a arund a 450hp engine just with some slight mods.
That is cheap power. How much to do that. I might pull the old shit box 5L out and put one of those in

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