Notice: We request that you don't just set up a new account at this time if you are a previous user.
If you used to be one of our moderators, please feel free to reach out to Chris via the facebook Outerlimits4x4 group and he will get you set back up with access should he need you.
Recovery:If you cannot access your old email address and don't remember your password, please click here to log a change of email address so you can do a password reset.

6WD convetion for gu

Tech Talk for Nissan owners.

Moderators: toaddog, V8Patrol

Post Reply
Posts: 60
Joined: Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:35 am
Location: Yuendumu NT

6WD convetion for gu

Post by troy gill »

i am going to atempt to do a 6wd convertion i dont want a lazy axle and i only want to run in 2wd on road so my question is

how do you get a third place to put a tail shaft from to only ingage when you put it in 4wd if any one has any photos or ideas on how would be good to hear from you thanks
TEAM ROUGH AS GUTS

7th at tuff truck 07
3rd at nissan trials

vote for me for tuff truck 08
Posts: 4792
Joined: Sun Nov 21, 2004 9:05 pm
Location: Watching out for stray buses

Post by Brendan-s »

Maybe a set of freewheeling hubs for the middle axle?
Posts: 1152
Joined: Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:25 pm
Location: the most livable planet in the universe

Post by its aford not a nissan »

you may have to sign up but here tis

http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112
Posts: 693
Joined: Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:37 pm
Location: Rochedale South - Brisbane

Post by benhl »

or a rear tailshaft disconnect device somewhere in the line...

how are you going to run the drive shafts? the two rear centres would have to be offset and the rear most one would have to have directly upward facing pinion to run the shaft over the first diff (similar to the yank one - is it rockwell centres??)

Just a thought - you could do a divorced transfer case for the rears between the axles and run a shaft fwd and a shaft rearwards...

I'm interested in how this turns out :?

EDIT: or do it like in the post on patrol4x4
GU 4.2 TD Garrett BB Hi-flow, M8274 + Bells & Whistles with plenty of fruit still on the list!
[b][color=red]\ m / ( > . < ) \ m /[/color][/b]
Posts: 62
Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:18 pm
Location: South Sydney

Setup

Post by Navara82 »

I saw a Landcruiser 75? It had the 1st diff with and offset power divider type system with the same style on the rear with a Jackshaft running back to the 2nd diff...... Looked O.K

I think the guy mentioned something about Air engadgement or something.....Maybe look at how the Trucks run Bogie Drives, That would probabbly give you some kind of insight maybe.

Hope it helps.
GU 2006 DX Nissan Patrol 4.2L TD Intercooled Wagon
Posts: 60
Joined: Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:35 am
Location: Yuendumu NT

Post by troy gill »

i had two ideas one was to see if i could machine the back side of the transfer so i could have a shaft come out both sides of the transfer where the front shaft is so that would give me three out put shafts and then i would run a two peice shaft to the rear diff.

the second idea i had was to make a gear box that bolted between tail shaft and diff that then put drive striaght through it to the rear most diff by chain drive or gears

i was planning on running a nissan rear diff with probably a tail shaft disconect or maybe a hubs if thats posible

i shouldnt have any issues wiith off set diffs as i will run a high pinion on the rear and i was wanting to make enough clearance between centres to run 37" tyres

but if any one has any photos of this please post thanks
TEAM ROUGH AS GUTS

7th at tuff truck 07
3rd at nissan trials

vote for me for tuff truck 08
Posts: 45681
Joined: Wed Nov 27, 2002 10:13 am

Post by bogged »

theres a place advertised in mags while back that did 6x6 conversions, if you can find a #, call and pretend to be a customer, see what they suggest they can do for u ....
Posts: 60
Joined: Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:35 am
Location: Yuendumu NT

Post by troy gill »

just looked at that sight above thats exactly what im talking about just with coil springs thanks for that
is there any other companys out there supplying this type of centre diff would be interested how much it goes for
TEAM ROUGH AS GUTS

7th at tuff truck 07
3rd at nissan trials

vote for me for tuff truck 08
Posts: 4494
Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2002 9:51 pm
Location: Golden Square

Post by turps »

That army drag/burn out Landrover was running Nissan H260 centers with 2 Patrol Transfercases.
Cant remember how it looked. But thats what it had.
Google for Armygeddon may get you some answers.
THOUGHT FOR THE DAY....
Posts: 5634
Joined: Sun May 08, 2005 10:07 pm
Location: diagonally parked in a parralell universe

Post by fool_injected »

Heres how the army does 6x6 Landrovers
Just to give you an idea on how one works, same principle
Drive to the third axle is by a separate propeller shaft taking power from the transfer-case power take-off (PTO). This PTO takes drive from a gear on the transfer case intermediate shaft and rotates at the same speed as the front (1st) and rear (2nd) prop'-shafts regardless of whether hi-range or lo-range is selected. The 3rd prop'-shaft passes over the second axle and is jointed, incorporating a c.v. joint, where it does so. In this way extreme articulation of the two rear axles is possible
Image

using a PTO you can select
2wd - 2nd axle
4wd - 1&2 axles
6wd -1,2 & 3 axles

now add a disconnect to the 2nd axle .....
[url=http://www.4x4masters.com.au/]Australian 4X4 Masters Series website[/url]

non illegitimi carborundum!

[url=http://www.suzuki4wd.com.au/forum/]Suzuki 4wd Club of NSW forum[/url]
Posts: 60
Joined: Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:35 am
Location: Yuendumu NT

Post by troy gill »

sent an email off to the engineering shop that did the transfer mods today will wait to see how much they want

to get a middle complete diff with the drive through to rear is worth $13000 or 21000 for the complete kit
TEAM ROUGH AS GUTS

7th at tuff truck 07
3rd at nissan trials

vote for me for tuff truck 08
Banned
Posts: 382
Joined: Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:50 pm
Location: Brisbane

Post by striker99 »

troy gill wrote:sent an email off to the engineering shop that did the transfer mods today will wait to see how much they want

to get a middle complete diff with the drive through to rear is worth $13000 or 21000 for the complete kit

I seem to remember reading somewhere about 20 grand for a full conversion
http://www.4wdtv.com.au - The best 4wd show on earth!!!!
Posts: 853
Joined: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:38 pm
Location: Newcastle

Re: 6WD convetion for gu

Post by Mick. »

troy gill wrote:i am going to atempt to do a 6wd convertion i dont want a lazy axle and i only want to run in 2wd on road so my question is

how do you get a third place to put a tail shaft from to only ingage when you put it in 4wd if any one has any photos or ideas on how would be good to hear from you thanks
Are you converting your comp truck into a 6 wheel drive? :shock:

Cheers Mick.
Posts: 60
Joined: Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:35 am
Location: Yuendumu NT

Post by troy gill »

im going to give ago on a tow veicle first but if i can make it cheap enough than that thought has crossed my mined but would make it bolt on so i had the choice do you think tuff truck would let a 6wd in next year
TEAM ROUGH AS GUTS

7th at tuff truck 07
3rd at nissan trials

vote for me for tuff truck 08
Banned
Posts: 382
Joined: Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:50 pm
Location: Brisbane

Post by striker99 »

troy gill wrote:do you think tuff truck would let a 6wd in next year

You could always try :) would be a site to see
http://www.4wdtv.com.au - The best 4wd show on earth!!!!
Posts: 853
Joined: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:38 pm
Location: Newcastle

Post by Mick. »

troy gill wrote:im going to give ago on a tow veicle first but if i can make it cheap enough than that thought has crossed my mined but would make it bolt on so i had the choice do you think tuff truck would let a 6wd in next year
I've was reading through all there rules a little while ago and all I could see was no skid steer or tracks so you might be in luck. :armsup:

I reckon it would be a crowd pleaser thats for sure. :lol:

Cheers Mick.
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 74 guests