Outback Challenge 2007

Post by **kirragc** » Thu May 17, 2007 6:34 pm

Sounds like you had the worst experience of all Piglet.
Lockdown for three days, no event and a bad crash to boot.

Post by **suzuki boy** » Thu May 17, 2007 7:24 pm

Sound's like a real out back challenge!

Piglet bad luck!

But lucky your not stranded out there!

We need more pics and stuff!

Does any one have some pecs on the suzukis because i could compete next year by the looks!

THE UPDATES HAVE BEEN AWSOME!

Post by **rangiedan** » Thu May 17, 2007 7:35 pm

well that sucks bad...
how do they go with finding a winner and does anyone have some photo's of the area??

Post by **Hobzee** » Thu May 17, 2007 7:38 pm

What a bummer for everyone.

You know I dont think a refund is in order.. Motorsport has always been this way. I remember being at an Ateco cancelled on the Friday night and no refunds. Stacks of us (Roger Smith and I last OBC) break down on the opening days and sit out an event with no refunds. The costs of running an event dont just go away if it is cut short. The weather was only getting worse and it was a RTA issue re transportation when it was all said and done. I feel sorry for everyone and I believe this would have been a very tough and heart breaking decision.

And so a refund wouldn't be on the cards in Cliffhanger either unless it never actually went ahead. But as we have bitumen to the front gate we would need another excuse to call it off, like too much mud ... NOT!

Chins up guys, just think that under all that caked on mud is a straight truck .. except for Piglets. You have some fixing to do fella..

Glad its not me FLYING out of BH tomorrow.. Going to be kinda bumpy up there.

Post by **TEE JAY** » Thu May 17, 2007 8:12 pm

From the OBC website. Not much as far as news goes that we havnt already been told. Just this pic.

And this.

Safe return to everyone there.

Post by **Hobzee** » Thu May 17, 2007 10:54 pm

Hey team just got some results ...

Based upon the stages everyone competed in

3rd Kym Bolton (He's always up there)
2nd Tod Robards and Ivan Vella (Bride's maids at Cliffhanger as well)
1st One of the Thai teams (I'm sure they have names - and hey this is the first time since 1999 a new comer has won OBC - tremendous)

In touring class ..

2nd Alan Moysey and Justin Warden (even if it was a rangie thing ...)
1st Robbie Matheson and Simmo (a cupla local lads)

Party on guys .. and gals

Post by **MUSS** » Thu May 17, 2007 11:12 pm

Hobzee wrote:Hey team just got some results ...

Based upon the stages everyone competed in

3rd Kym Bolton (He's always up there)
2nd Tod Robards and Ivan Vella (Bride's maids at Cliffhanger as well)
1st One of the Thai teams (I'm sure they have names - and hey this is the first time since 1999 a new comer has won OBC - tremendous)

In touring class ..

2nd Alan Moysey and Justin Warden (even if it was a rangie thing ...)
1st Robbie Matheson and Simmo (a cupla local lads)

Party on guys .. and gals

SIMO.....ha ha ha ha SIMO was our guide at 05... awesome bloke... ha ha ha ha weldone mate!!!!

Post by **kirragc** » Thu May 17, 2007 11:19 pm

what you cant give places for that.

Honourable mentions sure, spnsors pries no worries but to say someone won it is a joke

Post by **The Fish** » Fri May 18, 2007 1:50 am

Just returned from presentation

Had to make the long drive up worth it

Very interesting event results & no doubt will be debated for some time to come.

Spoke to many competitors and opinions were many and varied.

I find it hard for a winner of the OBC to be announced without really enduring and surviving a "one week of sheer hell"!

Granted that the organiser's only had 3 stages with results that everyone had the opportunity to compete in and the Thai's were the best team on these 3 stages.

But to win without, allegidly(sp?), being able to navigate and without a fuel range of more than what 20 litres will provide, both integral parts of competing in the challenge, it's certainly a questionable result by many.

Nothing against the Thai guys. They have done nothing wrong except for being ill-prepared, which surely the organiser's need to except some resposibilty for

A huge

for making the long trek to compete in a foreign country.

At the end of the day the result has to be thought of in the context (conditions) in which it was won.

Just my 2cents worth

Cheers, The Fish

Post by **PGS 4WD** » Fri May 18, 2007 7:13 am

I heard the Thai teams had a support vehicle and spotters advising them in regards to winching, also It's been mentioned their vehicles were far from regulation(some safety issues). Any body know how much truth to them?

Post by **Britswed** » Fri May 18, 2007 7:42 am

The Fish wrote:Just returned from presentation Had to make the long drive up worth it

Very interesting event results & no doubt will be debated for some time to come.

Spoke to many competitors and opinions were many and varied.

I find it hard for a winner of the OBC to be announced without really enduring and surviving a "one week of sheer hell"!

Granted that the organiser's only had 3 stages with results that everyone had the opportunity to compete in and the Thai's were the best team on these 3 stages.

But to win without, allegidly(sp?), being able to navigate and without a fuel range of more than what 20 litres will provide, both integral parts of competing in the challenge, it's certainly a questionable result by many.

Nothing against the Thai guys. They have done nothing wrong except for being ill-prepared, which surely the organiser's need to except some resposibilty for

A huge for making the long trek to compete in a foreign country.

At the end of the day the result has to be thought of in the context (conditions) in which it was won.

Just my 2cents worth

Cheers, The Fish

So did they get prize money this year

Post by **Britswed** » Fri May 18, 2007 7:50 am

Hey Pigglet or Jason the three stages being Stevens Creek Run,Sundays prolouge and what was the other all completed??

Post by **GQ TROL** » Fri May 18, 2007 8:07 am

PGS 4WD wrote:I heard the Thai teams had a support vehicle and spotters advising them in regards to winching, also It's been mentioned their vehicles were far from regulation(some safety issues). Any body know how much truth to them?

I've heard exactly the same thing. Apparently one Zuk didn't even have a firewall....not to mention the independant braking which was evident with their impressive turning circle. One was rumoured to have the winch cable running through the cab....only rumours at this stage though.....

Post by **Ossie** » Fri May 18, 2007 8:36 am

Britswed wrote:Hey Pigglet or Jason the three stages being Stevens Creek Run,Sundays prolouge and what was the other all completed??

Two runs on Sunday at Prologe same as in 2006.

Jason

Post by **Ossie** » Fri May 18, 2007 8:38 am

Hobzee wrote: 2nd Alan Moysey and Justin Warden (even if it was a rangie thing ...)

Go Al & Justin... even if it is a Rangie

Jason

Post by **TRobbo** » Fri May 18, 2007 8:49 am

I'm not questioning Paul's decision to cancel the event - it is a very hard thing to do... but does anyone else see the irony of an event like this, with the toughst of tough trucks, being cancelled because of a bit of rain.
If the thai teams were of rainforest challenge ilk they probably felt like they were in normal weather conditions.

BTW refunds - no chance. despite the event being cancelled all the costs of staging the event have still been incurred regardless of the impromptu finish.

Post by **Lepar** » Fri May 18, 2007 8:50 am

I'm with you on that one Fish!!!

You can't possibly have a result if the event wasn't completed!

As for the thai's, if all speculation is true and they have brake assit's etc cable through the cab (unsafe for a start) wouldn't that class as a rock buggy and not a registered type vehicle here in OZ??, which would make them ineligable to compete in OBC as all vehicles A: have to be registered
B: have to be a complete vehicle!

Is this not correct?????????????????????

Good effort to all those who made the trek to broken hill, Wishing you all a safe return to your homes.

How's your head Piggy???

Cheers Lepar.

Post by **Britswed** » Fri May 18, 2007 9:17 am

Ossie wrote:
Britswed wrote:Hey Pigglet or Jason the three stages being Stevens Creek Run,Sundays prolouge and what was the other all completed??
Two runs on Sunday at Prologe same as in 2006.

Jason

Cheers mate havent been for a couple of years & glad i didnt this year

Post by **Britswed** » Fri May 18, 2007 9:19 am

TRobbo wrote:I'm not questioning Paul's decision to cancel the event - it is a very hard thing to do... but does anyone else see the irony of an event like this, with the toughst of tough trucks, being cancelled because of a bit of rain.
If the thai teams were of rainforest challenge ilk they probably felt like they were in normal weather conditions.

BTW refunds - no chance. despite the event being cancelled all the costs of staging the event have still been incurred regardless of the impromptu finish.

It was cancelled because of RTA road closeures so impossible to transport from property to property

And yes ive still got the car so ill be at the Ateco

Mal

Post by **Lepar** » Fri May 18, 2007 9:44 am

We are hoping to make it out there next year and compete(first time) all going well, i just hope it doesn't rain again or maybe i will turn into a Fish!!!
My 80 series d/cab doesn't mind the water anyway!

Post by **grimbo** » Fri May 18, 2007 9:45 am

If the Thai vehicle wasn't up to spec then why didn't people protest about it from the beginning? So they won, big deal its not like it was a full OBC, they won 3 stages that everyone ran so therefore they won what was run. Simple. Yes it is a sad thing that the event was cancelled and sponsors didn't get their money's worth but that is the risk sponsorship takes on board and the fact it was an event cancelled by events outside the control of the organisers is surely goin to make sense to them.

At least this way many of the vehicles make it back in one piece and sets them up for next year nicely. To those who broke their vehicles commiserations, I hope you can find the drive to fix them and give it another go next year.

Post by **sheety** » Fri May 18, 2007 9:45 am

TO ANY OF YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT COMPETITORS CARS AFTER THE EVENT , ITS BAD SPORTSMANSHIP . I DIDNT HEAR ANY COMPLAINTS BEFORE OR DURING THE EVENT , THIS IS THE TIME IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP .

Post by **Sick Puppy** » Fri May 18, 2007 10:12 am

Didn't they disqualify Sandy for simply having a modified cam a few years back, just prior to announcing the scores. Looks like double standards..

Post by **Lepar** » Fri May 18, 2007 10:13 am

sheety wrote:TO ANY OF YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT COMPETITORS CARS AFTER THE EVENT , ITS BAD SPORTSMANSHIP . I DIDNT HEAR ANY COMPLAINTS BEFORE OR DURING THE EVENT , THIS IS THE TIME IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP .

Easy turbo!!!!!
Not complaining just stating fact's Sheety.

It's just like sheety and grimbo have said, there is no point complaining about it after the fact.
The 2007 OBC has been run and won and good on all those who entered.Hope to see you all there again next year.

Good on them for making the trek to a forein country and doing well.
It just goes to show that it's not all about brute horsepower and lot's of money is it!
Go the zook's...........even though i'm not a fan.!!!!

just my 2 cents worth.

Cheers lepar.

Post by **GQ TROL** » Fri May 18, 2007 10:41 am

sheety wrote:TO ANY OF YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT COMPETITORS CARS AFTER THE EVENT , ITS BAD SPORTSMANSHIP . I DIDNT HEAR ANY COMPLAINTS BEFORE OR DURING THE EVENT , THIS IS THE TIME IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP .

I understand the issue was raised to the organisers (by more than one competitor) at the begining. Not sure if this was pre or post scrutineering, but it was raised as far as I'm aware.

Anyway, its all heresay until the lads get back from BH.

Post by **ozcar** » Fri May 18, 2007 11:05 am

One of the Zooks had the turbo coming through the firewall about two inches from the navigators feet .Great on the cold night stages.Vehicles were registered in Thailand.

Post by **kirragc** » Fri May 18, 2007 11:12 am

Surely everyone was being a bit accomodating for the guys seeing as they were an internstional entrant

Post by **teemothy** » Fri May 18, 2007 11:25 am

weeman wrote:
ozcar wrote:Just heard the OBC has been cancelled due to the rain.Bugger
is it true or just a rumour.

have heard the contemplating cancelling stages however i seriously doubt the event has been cancelled as far i know they are still competing today.

seriously doubt it huh

you moron. what are you stupid or something

Post by **teemothy** » Fri May 18, 2007 11:45 am

Sick Puppy wrote:Didn't they disqualify Sandy for simply having a modified cam a few years back, just prior to announcing the scores. Looks like double standards..

yeah but sandy is also a moron

Post by **grimbo** » Fri May 18, 2007 11:54 am

well aren't you mr nice

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