Stop light theft??????

Post by **Miss KJ** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 12:19 am

I have xgt240 lightforce on ARB bar does anyone know of a theft proof system for these lights, thanks.

Post by **spazbot** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 6:25 am

get some lock nuts that need a special head to remove them, weld or lock tight them on
take em off unluss you need em on there ?

Post by **ausyota** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 6:45 am

What I did with mine was get a wide washer and weld a piece of pipe onto it so you can only undo the nuts with a long reach socket.
Most thieves will just carry around a shifter not a full socket set.

Post by **V8Patrol** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 7:48 am

I know a guy who "used to be" a professional wheel theif, he said once that all the gadgets that ppl put on their cars to stop theft were useless, one trick he did part with that is of use is so simple that its childs play....
a simple piece of high tensile wire through the bolt will put the nut into the "too hard basket".... its the same as a splitpin...pain in da but to remove without a pair of pointynose pliers....dont belive me ???? TRY IT !!!!!

Most thefts are done as quickly as possiable and I could not belive how easy it was for him to undo one of those "special" locknuts ya see on a wheel, just as quick as a normal wheelnut !!! ( as if ya wanna know how )

The trick is to make it "seem" like a nightmare to remove the item.... most theives carry the key to Australia ( boltcutters ) so padlocks and the like are easy and quick to remove.... none of em carry a pair of pointynose pliers !!!. We all add security by buying the bigest posible padlock, most exotic locking wheelnut, massive chains/bars, and fitting mutiple locking points.... all that means is the tools to remove em get bigger in proportion.

Post by **bogged** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 8:17 am

ausyota wrote:What I did with mine was get a wide washer and weld a piece of pipe onto it so you can only undo the nuts with a long reach socket.

Good thinking.. Sort of like the things they use to stop people cuttin padlocks.

Welding the nuts I see as a PITA, if you need to remove the units for any reason laster, the bolt part is fubar and if its not removable.... :armsup:

Post by **Thor** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 8:31 am

i've heard of 2 suggestions... using one of those special nuts with 12(?) sides so that normal spanners can't fit them. and also using 2 nuts so tight that you'd need to sets of spanners to get them off, and most thieves don't carry around 2 sets of stuff.

Post by **bogged** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:24 am

Thor wrote:i've heard of 2 suggestions... using one of those special nuts with 12(?) sides so that normal spanners can't fit them. and also using 2 nuts so tight that you'd need to sets of spanners to get them off, and most thieves don't carry around 2 sets of stuff.

1) a shifter will work on 12 sides.
2) how do you know what a thief carries :?:

Post by **ToNkA** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:29 am

V8Patrol wrote:I know a guy who "used to be" a professional wheel theif, he said once that all the gadgets that ppl put on their cars to stop theft were useless, one trick he did part with that is of use is so simple that its childs play....
a simple piece of high tensile wire through the bolt will put the nut into the "too hard basket".... its the same as a splitpin...pain in da but to remove without a pair of pointynose pliers....dont belive me ???? TRY IT !!!!!

Do you mean, drill through the thread and place a split pin bellow the nut?

(Sorry just trying to develop mental image of what you mean as I have been thinking about someway of protecting the lights for a while.

Post by **GRIMACE** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:59 am

One day when i get a pair of Light Force XGTs :roll:

I am gonna use rounded bolts and nuts :lol:

U see I have a set of wierd thingys abotu 6 in total that grip onto just about anything, only problem is they dont like tight spaces.

I figure a rounded bolt with two rouded nuts on the other end and a split pin should be sufficient :twisted:

KNOW ALL I NEED IS THE LIGHTS :bad-words:

Post by **Robbo** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:32 am

Thanks guys for your input to my wifes quiz, all have good idea's. I was thinking maybe use long bolt that needs deep socket backed up by hole in nut with a roll pin knocked in it. Just access might be a drama. HMMMM still thinking.

Post by **GRIMACE** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:44 am

Cover the bolts in blue tac and paint it the same colour as the mounts it on.......... maybe the thief will thinks its welded

Hire a Bikey with a shotgun to stand by your rig

Bye a farkin visous attack trained doverman and tie it to your BullBAR

Post by **Andrew_C** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:10 am

I lost the key to my lock nuts so I just used Vise grips, So I spose anybody could do that to pinch your lights as well. How would you get them off without the key- thats probably how they would as well.

Post by **ToNkA** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:27 am

Use a long bolt and like 4 or 5 nuts of differing sizes that fit the thread, time it takes to undo them all you could easily earn the $$$ to buy a set of lights.

Post by **V8Patrol** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:58 am

ToNkA wrote:
V8Patrol wrote:I know a guy who "used to be" a professional wheel theif, he said once that all the gadgets that ppl put on their cars to stop theft were useless, one trick he did part with that is of use is so simple that its childs play....
a simple piece of high tensile wire through the bolt will put the nut into the "too hard basket".... its the same as a splitpin...pain in da but to remove without a pair of pointynose pliers....dont belive me ???? TRY IT !!!!!

Do you mean, drill through the thread and place a split pin bellow the nut?

(Sorry just trying to develop mental image of what you mean as I have been thinking about someway of protecting the lights for a while.

not solong ago there was a post in one of the forums about removing a hex bolt that had rounded off.... the wheel nut uses exactly the same principle.
Get a high quality wheelbrace and a hammer...... thats all ya need to remove those special locknuts....
put the wheelbrace on the nut....belt it on tight...undo... just before the nut comes off of the stud, wriggle the wheelbrace around to free the nut ,.. remove the nut with ya fingers.

I didnt belive it worked after he told me ...but haveing tried it ..

Post by **mav** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 12:12 pm

that works a treat to get the lock nuts off worked at a tyre service you would be suprised by the number of people that go oh by the way ive lost the lock nut socket :roll:

Post by **GRIMACE** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:55 pm

You may have seen my mentioning about the rounded nuts and the wierd tool i had that could grip to anythign round...........
I used the big one on dads cruiser to get the spare off after he lost the lock nut bit. It was a peice of piss....... spring it back clip it on and pull..........yoinked it loose in about 3seconds (x3 to include the other two bolts) and I had one tyre ready to roll in about 26seconds (thats three nuts loosend and removed

So i guess my theory for the lights and the rounded nuts was pretty dumb.

While were on the topic, the reason my father had lock nuts on his truck was one early mourning when we walked out the front door and down the stair to the car (I was only about 14) mum was takin us to school, we all got to the car and I was like.....'MUM.... where are the tires?'
5x Brand new 31"BFG ATs on brand new alloy rims.... all gone (DAD WAS NOT HAPPY)

I guess no matter what you do you will never be able to stop a determined thief................. just hope to keep the silly buggers away :roll:

Post by **Robbo** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:04 pm

I have a wierd tool also but it wont take nuts off. :rofl:

Post by **GRIMACE** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:10 pm

Robbo wrote:I have a wierd tool also but it wont take nuts off.

WIERD TOOL
:rofl:

Post by **auto_eng** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 6:09 pm

Another option is to bolt the lights on as usual, then put another nut right on thh end of the bolt and weld it on. You can still tighten and looses the lights for adjustment, just not remove them. If you weld the nut right on the end of the thread you can weld it so that you can grind the weld off if need be without damaging the whole thread.

Post by **rojac** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:29 pm

Drill thru the nut, tap and secure with a allen keyed screw. Can undo but it takes time.

Post by **rojac** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:30 pm

Drill thru the nut, tap and secure with a allen keyed screw. Can undo but it takes time.

Dam dt's

Post by **moose** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:03 pm

MissKJ , give the to me to look after !!!
I,m in a very safe suburb , no 1 will get them here !!!!!

Post by **modman** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 10:57 pm

i believe jaycar have an auxillary input for a car alarm that detects when the wires are disconnected from driving lights. i will definately be investigating this!!!!

modman

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