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diesel vs petrol
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diesel vs petrol
hey guys not sure if this has been done but what do you guys prefer?
petrol or diesel(including turbo) powered 4wds??
petrol or diesel(including turbo) powered 4wds??
pos lux and a 80
Re: diesel vs petrol
Is this serious?nate_lux wrote:hey guys not sure if this has been done...
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got my 1st diesel end of last year, now I wouldn't fuss about petrol anymore, now I would like to get a F-250 V8 turbo diesel or something else like that.
I wasn't too sure about getting a diesel only got it because they are supposed to be good on the diesel which they are but they do have higher service needs but if you can handle changing oil and some filters then that's it pretty much only take it into a shop every now and then for a proper check over and adjustment if needed.
Personally I think a diesel is cheaper to service than a petrol car what with oil, filters, spark plugs, leads, etc needed for a petrol car.
and with some joints now selling veggie/bio-diesel all ready to go, price of diesel might not even need to be a factor anymore.
I wasn't too sure about getting a diesel only got it because they are supposed to be good on the diesel which they are but they do have higher service needs but if you can handle changing oil and some filters then that's it pretty much only take it into a shop every now and then for a proper check over and adjustment if needed.
Personally I think a diesel is cheaper to service than a petrol car what with oil, filters, spark plugs, leads, etc needed for a petrol car.
and with some joints now selling veggie/bio-diesel all ready to go, price of diesel might not even need to be a factor anymore.
it is here in qld at the moment. petrol is down to 108 average. diesel hasnt budged from 125! :(
saw petrol for 99.9 out in the sticks today :O
saw petrol for 99.9 out in the sticks today :O
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4inch lift, king springs, efs and procomp shocks
315/70R16 cooper ST's
found fuel economy...
x4 thenmacca81 wrote:x2RockyF70 wrote:Old school diesel. Turboed of course. So easy to work on, lotsa torque, water resistant, sound mad, and smell's better than petrol IMO
and x3 just for the hell of it
i wish mine was turboed tho...


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the things I love about diesel are CRAWL and range; there is no real economic advantage to buying a diesel, sure they use less but the fuel costs more and the vehicle costs more, but I sure like being able to drive 1200km before filling up. that, and the fact that it's as quick as an equivalent petrol powered model (1996 multivalve turbo 80 series versus 4.5 twincam petrol) 

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X5 economy ..? naaaa it dosen't matter ..HotFourOk wrote:x4 thenmacca81 wrote:x2RockyF70 wrote:Old school diesel. Turboed of course. So easy to work on, lotsa torque, water resistant, sound mad, and smell's better than petrol IMO
and x3 just for the hell of it
i wish mine was turboed tho...Mine's turboed!
It's the feel .. old school Turbo Diesel engine can be tunned to produce lot's of power .. and reliability for hole life .. !
When you feel the turbo kik .. and the diesel injection sound .. the life take the sense ..
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chikoroll_ said
check it out at the mud drags
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T0xW_PzWcc
i have a turbo diesel heaps of power but do not know about economy only get about 450km out of 90lt tank but got to put something with the 20psi of airdiesel for towing, longevity and economy
petrol for POWER!
i have a petrol, but next time i will probably go diesel

check it out at the mud drags

it will go or it will blow
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lol my petrol 85L gets 400-500 when i'm just going to and from workxenith wrote:chikoroll_ saidi have a turbo diesel heaps of power but do not know about economy only get about 450km out of 90lt tank but got to put something with the 20psi of airdiesel for towing, longevity and economy
petrol for POWER!
i have a petrol, but next time i will probably go diesel![]()
check it out at the mud dragshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T0xW_PzWcc
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diesel
Diesel for sure.
1. They run underwater with no real waterproofing (snorkle of coarse)
2. Cheaper to maintain (servicing) If you do it yourself.
3. They are better on fuel. Sure a diesel on 35's will use as much as a petrol on 31's but put the petty on 35's and see what happens.
4. never any trouble!! they either go or don't go. No in between. With all the petrols ive ever had, or mates when off roading, there is allways some sort of problem. Missing or overheating or running out of fuel.
5. torque for off road
6. If you want POWER get a frigging sports car. Stop digging up the tracks with big v8's.
1. They run underwater with no real waterproofing (snorkle of coarse)
2. Cheaper to maintain (servicing) If you do it yourself.
3. They are better on fuel. Sure a diesel on 35's will use as much as a petrol on 31's but put the petty on 35's and see what happens.
4. never any trouble!! they either go or don't go. No in between. With all the petrols ive ever had, or mates when off roading, there is allways some sort of problem. Missing or overheating or running out of fuel.
5. torque for off road
6. If you want POWER get a frigging sports car. Stop digging up the tracks with big v8's.
Remember some days your the pigeon and other days your the statue
Re: diesel
Good points but point 3 is a bit vague, if you service a petrol yourself i'm sure it'd be cheaper than a servicing a diesel yourself. Plus, diesels need to be serviced more often.DR Frankenstine wrote:Diesel for sure.
1. They run underwater with no real waterproofing (snorkle of coarse)
2. Cheaper to maintain (servicing) If you do it yourself.
3. They are better on fuel. Sure a diesel on 35's will use as much as a petrol on 31's but put the petty on 35's and see what happens.
4. never any trouble!! they either go or don't go. No in between. With all the petrols ive ever had, or mates when off roading, there is allways some sort of problem. Missing or overheating or running out of fuel.
5. torque for off road
6. If you want POWER get a frigging sports car. Stop digging up the tracks with big v8's.
cheers
Re: diesel
Diesels don't need to be serviced more often. Some of the new ones have 25,000km service intervals.Jeeps wrote: Good points but point 3 is a bit vague, if you service a petrol yourself i'm sure it'd be cheaper than a servicing a diesel yourself. Plus, diesels need to be serviced more often.
cheers
Oil cost is similar, filter cost is similar and you save on the spark plugs.
Re: diesel
LoL, I can do a service for $65 to $70 2 gos, ok if I want the dear stuff it's $90 maybe push to $100 a few gos.Jeeps wrote:Good points but point 3 is a bit vague, if you service a petrol yourself i'm sure it'd be cheaper than a servicing a diesel yourself. Plus, diesels need to be serviced more often.DR Frankenstine wrote:Diesel for sure.
1. They run underwater with no real waterproofing (snorkle of coarse)
2. Cheaper to maintain (servicing) If you do it yourself.
3. They are better on fuel. Sure a diesel on 35's will use as much as a petrol on 31's but put the petty on 35's and see what happens.
4. never any trouble!! they either go or don't go. No in between. With all the petrols ive ever had, or mates when off roading, there is allways some sort of problem. Missing or overheating or running out of fuel.
5. torque for off road
6. If you want POWER get a frigging sports car. Stop digging up the tracks with big v8's.
cheers
15 litres of oil is 2 services for me, I buy a 10 liters of oil for $45 at the cheapest and get a 5 litre for the next time that's only around $20 to $30 plus have spare top up oil if ever needed.
Oil/oil filter is pretty much it for servicing a diesel, have coolant as well that's a few years, and the fuel filter but they last for quite a while before needing a change out same for air filter.
It's really only 3 things, Oil, Air, Fuel, if you can keep on top of that then it'll run good all the time.
Had a Diesel and it gobbled up dollars on bigger pumps, turbo's, cams etc. It stank when pushed hard (could never get used to the diesel smell) and for the dollars I poured into it it went well but after i slotted in the petrol V8 I will never go back to an oiler.
on 36's I get 15-16ltrs per 100 kays and on LPG I get 17ltrs per 100 kays when pushing hard, got 130 usable ltrs ($62 to fill is good too) and I do all the services myself.
I still do heaps of river crossings too.
Love the sound & love the extra power as well.
on 36's I get 15-16ltrs per 100 kays and on LPG I get 17ltrs per 100 kays when pushing hard, got 130 usable ltrs ($62 to fill is good too) and I do all the services myself.
I still do heaps of river crossings too.
Love the sound & love the extra power as well.
Cheers
Andrew
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Just a few mods, nothing over the top.:)
Andrew
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Just a few mods, nothing over the top.:)
I reckon your odo is way out, those figures are unrealistic.HG wrote:Had a Diesel and it gobbled up dollars on bigger pumps, turbo's, cams etc. It stank when pushed hard (could never get used to the diesel smell) and for the dollars I poured into it it went well but after i slotted in the petrol V8 I will never go back to an oiler.
on 36's I get 15-16ltrs per 100 kays and on LPG I get 17ltrs per 100 kays when pushing hard, got 130 usable ltrs ($62 to fill is good too) and I do all the services myself.
I still do heaps of river crossings too.
Love the sound & love the extra power as well.
Saddle up tonto, its the not so loanrangie! . 98 TDI DISCO lightly modded with more to come.
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