Notice: We request that you don't just set up a new account at this time if you are a previous user.
If you used to be one of our moderators, please feel free to reach out to Chris via the facebook Outerlimits4x4 group and he will get you set back up with access should he need you.
Recovery:If you cannot access your old email address and don't remember your password, please click here to log a change of email address so you can do a password reset.

Rims for 7.50 x 16 on Sierra?

Tech Talk for Suzuki owners.

Moderators: lay80n, sierrajim

Post Reply
Posts: 432
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:46 pm
Location: Tamborine, QLD. QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!

Rims for 7.50 x 16 on Sierra?

Post by dano80 »

Hey, Just picked up an '85 LWB sierra. Looking at putting 7.50 x 16 M/P Simex Trekkers on, my only dilemma is trying to find a steel rim with the right stud pattern and offset. I went to a few tyre shops (and even some good ones I know) and no one can seem to get a "sunny" in a size that will suit this tyre! The next port of call, I know some LJ's and some early sierras came out with 16's, but am unsure of their strength. The other possibility was to maybe have a "skinny" landcruiser or patrol rim modified, but then there are legalities with this too I suppose, along with the fact the offset is probably up the creek! Anyone out there tried this same venture?

P.S. The reason for wanting a "solid" rim, is for a weld on mechanical beadlock at a later date.
Posts: 1889
Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2004 10:23 pm
Location: Brisbane

Post by just cruizin' »

Check the Vitara they may have come with 16's
Posts: 231
Joined: Mon Dec 20, 2004 9:43 am
Location: lost in my pile of parts

Post by Tim D »

Have a look at old jeep "CJ" rims, i think gutless found that they fit ? ;)
Posts: 977
Joined: Sun Jul 20, 2003 7:57 pm
Location: Brisbane

Post by Gutless »

Tim D wrote:Have a look at old jeep "CJ" rims, i think gutless found that they fit ? ;)
That they do. You could try ROH for some new ones (CJ5-7) but they won't be cheap.....maybe $80+ each :shock:
Posts: 432
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:46 pm
Location: Tamborine, QLD. QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!

Post by dano80 »

Yeah I did hear that the old jeep rims could fit, its just a matter of finding some old ones, or shelling out for some new ones! Thanks for all the suggestions.........keep 'em comin'.
Posts: 389
Joined: Sat Mar 05, 2005 8:06 am
Location: campbelltown/penriff

rims

Post by noelb1 »

old f100 would prob beable to get a 16" rim from and they fit
Van-tastic!
Posts: 6107
Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:22 pm
Location: .."I MIGHT NOT AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAY, BUT ILL DEFEND YOUR RIGHT TO SAY IT".

Post by St Jimmy »

you can run jeep rims i've got a set of 600/16 bar treads on cj5/6 i think paid 50 for the set at locol 4x wreakers but check stud pattern first as they came out with some differant sizes in stud pattern' boner
slugs are just snails that sold their belongings for drug money

Dream as if you'll live forever, live like you'll die today.
Powered by Pals, Motivated by Mates.
Posts: 376
Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:25 pm
Location: bris

Post by fordy1 »

visit a suzuki dealer for the GV ( new ) pov rims as most are chucked for chrome..
www.outdoorauto.com.au - we love doing new GVs....
Posts: 696
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:07 pm
Location: Greenbank

Post by zookimal »

Lada did a suitable 16x5 if you can find a set. I know the Lada wreckers at Caboolture had 3 a couple of months back. Sorry, didn't check your location.

I nearly went down exactly the same path as this with mp trekkers but went 15s at the last minute when I just wanted to get something on the car for a trip.
-Mal

Zook 1, 2, 3 gone
Patrol - Wheels, engine and stuff
Posts: 7345
Joined: Wed Jun 02, 2004 3:29 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by Gwagensteve »

2WD 1970's F100 ran 16X5.5 with the right stud pattern, but the offset is not ideal and centre bore is wrong.

They can be offset and bored though.

I am not convinced LJ rims clear the front brake calipers as they were only intended for drums.

Other options:

sierra 1.0's and 1.3 traybacks came with 16's, these are 4.5" wide and look weak but they seem to hold up fine, I have ben running a set awith 34 swpampers on them for a while and plan to beadlock them. They still run true even after some hard trips on a relatively heavy car.

2.0 and V6 2.0 Vitara run 16X6 (?) but can't be mechanically beadlocked as the rim design won't permit it

2.5 GV's have 16X 6.5 rims with a helpful offset for sierras but also can't be mechanically beadlocked.

I would not suggest modifying a wheels stud pattern

Don't get freaked out by how light sierra wheels look - they only have to support 1350kg, not 3 tonne.

Steve.
[quote="greg"] some say he is a man without happy dreams, or that he sees silver linings on clouds and wonders why they are not platinum... all we know, is he's called the stevie.[/quote]
Van-tastic!
Posts: 6107
Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:22 pm
Location: .."I MIGHT NOT AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAY, BUT ILL DEFEND YOUR RIGHT TO SAY IT".

Post by St Jimmy »

hay dano whats your adress if you want to pay postage i'll give you a set off gen suzuki rims with bar treads on them as i have a spare set sitting here. boner59 need a bit of a clean up as they have been sitting for years no thier not my jeep rims
slugs are just snails that sold their belongings for drug money

Dream as if you'll live forever, live like you'll die today.
Powered by Pals, Motivated by Mates.
Posts: 13555
Joined: Fri Nov 15, 2002 1:28 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by grimbo »

you can also use Lada Niva rims. I had some that were modified for track width when I was running my 7.00 x 16 SATs way back when
Ransom note = demand + collage
Posts: 7345
Joined: Wed Jun 02, 2004 3:29 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by Gwagensteve »

To use lada rims you will have to already have 16" centres to suit suzuki. Even though the PCD is correct, the offset is massively wrong on Lada rims so the track width will be about 8" narrower and the wheels will hit the brakes.

Niva rims are wider than suzuki and suitable for changing the offset of a set of Sierra 16's (which can't have the offset changed enough to make it worthwhile)

Steve.
[quote="greg"] some say he is a man without happy dreams, or that he sees silver linings on clouds and wonders why they are not platinum... all we know, is he's called the stevie.[/quote]
User avatar
cj
Posts: 1913
Joined: Tue Jul 01, 2003 10:30 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by cj »

Gwagensteve wrote:

2.0 and V6 2.0 Vitara run 16X6 (?) but can't be mechanically beadlocked as the rim design won't permit it

2.5 GV's have 16X 6.5 rims with a helpful offset for sierras but also can't be mechanically beadlocked.
Vitara 2.0's run a 16 x 6.5" rim with 25P offset

GV's run a 16 x 7" rim with 5P offset

The new generation (IFS/IRS) GV's run a 16 x 6.5' but the stud PCD is wrong.
[quote="4WD Stuff"]
I haven't quoted Grimbo because nobody takes him seriously :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: [/quote]
Posts: 432
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:46 pm
Location: Tamborine, QLD. QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!

Post by dano80 »

Cheers for the great response fellas. Thanks anyway Boner....(can I say that on outers?) Im on the Gold Coast, would have been nice though. Must change my profile to say ones location. (side note-how do you change your email address on your profile, just send a message to ruff?)
Will prob try to find some cj5-6 wheels as these are prob the strongest rim. Is the offset any good for what I want, I think I would probably want something like a -12 to about -20....any thoughts? If that fails will just chase up some early sierra 16's.
Posts: 432
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:46 pm
Location: Tamborine, QLD. QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!

Post by dano80 »

What do you think that the postage would be boner, just out of interest?
And are they LJ rims or are they Sierra rims (only ask as I believe g'steve would be correct in regards to caliper clearance. Hey steve do you run 34 x 9.5 special service or 34 x 10.5 ltb's? And do they do what you want? I play in the rocks, and you play mud??? Only guess as some of your previous threads say your from Vic....
Van-tastic!
Posts: 6107
Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:22 pm
Location: .."I MIGHT NOT AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAY, BUT ILL DEFEND YOUR RIGHT TO SAY IT".

Post by St Jimmy »

i'll find out for you the lj rims will fit as i used them on my lwb zook with discs no worries.boner
slugs are just snails that sold their belongings for drug money

Dream as if you'll live forever, live like you'll die today.
Powered by Pals, Motivated by Mates.
Posts: 432
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:46 pm
Location: Tamborine, QLD. QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!

Post by dano80 »

Cheers mate.
Posts: 7345
Joined: Wed Jun 02, 2004 3:29 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by Gwagensteve »

dano80 wrote:What do you think that the postage would be boner, just out of interest?
And are they LJ rims or are they Sierra rims (only ask as I believe g'steve would be correct in regards to caliper clearance. Hey steve do you run 34 x 9.5 special service or 34 x 10.5 ltb's? And do they do what you want? I play in the rocks, and you play mud??? Only guess as some of your previous threads say your from Vic....
I thought the LJ rims were a problem, but maybe they are OK?

Special service. They're about 15 years old, hard as, chopped up, and a very temporary fix. I run them at 6-8psi offroad with tubes.

They work pretty good for what they are.

Steve.

I will end up running Q78's once the big diffs are built.
[quote="greg"] some say he is a man without happy dreams, or that he sees silver linings on clouds and wonders why they are not platinum... all we know, is he's called the stevie.[/quote]
Posts: 432
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:46 pm
Location: Tamborine, QLD. QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!

Post by dano80 »

What diffs you run g'wagen?
Posts: 1183
Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:05 pm
Location: Tewantin

Post by flyinwall »

dano80 where are you as i have some original 16" zook rims here if you are interested i am located on sunny coast (west cooroy)
R.I.P. Darryl "DAZZA" Mutch 02/08/1978 - 26/08/2012 aged 34 years ... You will be missed my little brother.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=39190&start=150
Posts: 7345
Joined: Wed Jun 02, 2004 3:29 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by Gwagensteve »

dano80 wrote:What diffs you run g'wagen?
Currently running stock 1.0 with a welded rear and 1.3 CV's in the front.

Finished diffs will be
Rear - 5.12 vitara rear centre, TT spool, full floating with front hubs (discs on rear) about 100mm over widetrack width, axleshaft material TBC, (but I'd kinda like 300M)

Front - either vitara rear centre or WT Rear, 5.12, air locker, TT Doubletough CV's, stock Trailtough/CTM longside inner axle, 100mm over width shortside axle (custom).

Pretty much have all the parts together, need the shafts once the width is confirmed. I'll be making the jigs for them shortly.

Steve.
[quote="greg"] some say he is a man without happy dreams, or that he sees silver linings on clouds and wonders why they are not platinum... all we know, is he's called the stevie.[/quote]
Posts: 396
Joined: Fri Dec 24, 2004 4:05 pm
Location: in the shed cutting/grinding/welding mocks old shit vic

Post by mugginsmoo »

i'm all for the vit rear up front :D

and over width :D :D
[quote="Gwagensteve"]
nope, apparently I hate suzukis so nobody should be surprised by that :roll:

Steve,[/quote]
[url=http://vic.suzuki4wd.com/]Suzuki 4WD club VIC[/url]
Posts: 432
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:46 pm
Location: Tamborine, QLD. QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!

Post by dano80 »

flyinwall wrote:dano80 where are you as i have some original 16" zook rims here if you are interested i am located on sunny coast (west cooroy)

On the Gold Coast. What you chasing for them?
Posts: 1183
Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:05 pm
Location: Tewantin

Post by flyinwall »

$25 each with original non directional tires still fitted

Image
R.I.P. Darryl "DAZZA" Mutch 02/08/1978 - 26/08/2012 aged 34 years ... You will be missed my little brother.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=39190&start=150
Posts: 432
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:46 pm
Location: Tamborine, QLD. QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!

Post by dano80 »

Sounds good, PM me your mobile number, will have to see when I can get up that way.....Or if you know of someone on their way down in the next few weeks........
Posts: 2955
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:19 am
Location: Melton

Post by suzuki boy »

Havn't read the whole post but read up to that jeep cj rims fit!

I have 15's on mine and they come with -15 offset stock!
Not sure if they come in a 16.

BUT from speedy rims they set me back $48! :cool:
Built swb sierra, building a lwb sierra ute and have a dmax for family camping
Posts: 44
Joined: Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:02 pm
Location: Queensland, Gold Coast, Helensvale

Great stuff

Post by suzuki lj80 »

Hey Dan

when r u gonna let me take the zook 4 a spin, nah just jokin, remember when you let me drift the zook lj80 haha that thing was awesome, I can't wait 2 see it in zook heaven, well anywayz have a good 1 man, I'll cya some time during the week if not, I will see you on the 22nd of september.

oh Jessie said that if it rains on sep the 22nd he's gonna bring his ps3 & over head over.

Tim
i was a drifter but 4wd monthly saved me
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 41 guests