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front rear Diff swap

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front rear Diff swap

Post by outlandy »

Can you put the front diff in the rear and the rear in the front. I cant see why not they are bsically the same diff I have rung the diff mechanics and get a different answer every time. I want to put the LSDin the front and a locker in the back.
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Re: front rear Diff swap

Post by midi73 »

outlandy wrote:Can you put the front diff in the rear and the rear in the front. I cant see why not they are bsically the same diff I have rung the diff mechanics and get a different answer every time. I want to put the LSDin the front and a locker in the back.
Of what?
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Post by outlandy »

60 series
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Post by midi73 »

outlandy wrote:60 series
Yep. Straight swap.
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Post by outlandy »

Better get the spanners out then. Can you adjust the clutches on the LSD up so they are a little tighter
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Post by midi73 »

outlandy wrote:Better get the spanners out then. Can you adjust the clutches on the LSD up so they are a little tighter
I am not sure about that one. I think they have to be rebuilt, but I could be wrong. The cruiser lsd hasnt got a very good reputation as a good slippery, not for 4wding anyway. They are not like the GQ ones, which seem to work quite well.
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Post by outlandy »

Well I will put new clutches in it and I guess It should last a little longer in the front as it wouldhave in the back. Just need a little help when the hubs a locked in and cant afford or justify 2 lockers
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Post by midi73 »

outlandy wrote:Well I will put new clutches in it and I guess It should last a little longer in the front as it wouldhave in the back. Just need a little help when the hubs a locked in and cant afford or justify 2 lockers
Yep fair enough. Every little bit helps. And you are right, it should last a lot longer in the front.
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Post by bj on roids »

60 = yep no probs

80 and 100 cant be done
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Post by DR Frankenstine »

outlandy wrote:Well I will put new clutches in it and I guess It should last a little longer in the front as it wouldhave in the back. Just need a little help when the hubs a locked in and cant afford or justify 2 lockers
You won't need new clutches!! get a couple of shims .35mm and get your centre spring stretched 5mm. I have lsd's front and rear and despite what others say they work well. Or at least they do what they were designed to do.
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Post by outlandy »

Mmmm sounds like the go how heavy is the steering when in 4wd and how heavy just when the hubs are in??
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Post by evanstaniland »

bj on roids wrote:60 = yep no probs

80 and 100 cant be done
do other centers fit in the 80s front and rear??
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Post by midi73 »

evanstaniland wrote:
bj on roids wrote:60 = yep no probs

80 and 100 cant be done
do other centers fit in the 80s front and rear??
80, 70, 60, 40 are all the same in the rear.
70, 60, 40 are the same in the front and rear.
80 and 100 have the 8" front. Hilux centres fit into 80 and 100 front.
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Post by sloshy »

I would not recomend it because when u swap front to rear or visa versa u will be running the crown and pinoin on the backside, in wich they have not been lapped to run in this direction.
Thats why if you get both your centres recond they are marked front and rear. The backlash adjustments could be differant aswell.
U might get away with it but they might be noisey.
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Post by outlandy »

Oh well I was going to re-co them whilst out so I will adjust them accordingly
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Post by Tapage »

midi73 wrote:
evanstaniland wrote:
bj on roids wrote:60 = yep no probs

80 and 100 cant be done
do other centers fit in the 80s front and rear??
80, 70, 60, 40 are all the same in the rear.
70, 60, 40 are the same in the front and rear.
80 and 100 have the 8" front. Hilux centres fit into 80 and 100 front.
Concern about Toyota variations around the world .. my advice.

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Post 90 70 series come with front axles 8" HP reverse cut .. so aren't the same as rear axle.

As same as all 80 series and 105 series ( that share 80 series plataform )

The 8" Hi Lux are the same up to 97 here ( both solid axles ) front and rear .. ( care R&P diferences ) and share rear until the new vigo.

The 8" rear from hi lux have anormal cut and low pinion .. and don't fit in 8" front High pinion reverse cut ..
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Post by midi73 »

Tapage wrote:
midi73 wrote:
evanstaniland wrote:
bj on roids wrote:60 = yep no probs

80 and 100 cant be done
do other centers fit in the 80s front and rear??
80, 70, 60, 40 are all the same in the rear.
70, 60, 40 are the same in the front and rear.
80 and 100 have the 8" front. Hilux centres fit into 80 and 100 front.
Concern about Toyota variations around the world .. my advice.

Here

Post 90 70 series come with front axles 8" HP reverse cut .. so aren't the same as rear axle.

As same as all 80 series and 105 series ( that share 80 series plataform )

The 8" Hi Lux are the same up to 97 here ( both solid axles ) front and rear .. ( care R&P diferences ) and share rear until the new vigo.

The 8" rear from hi lux have anormal cut and low pinion .. and don't fit in 8" front High pinion reverse cut ..
Thank you for that. Yes very true. I forgot about the reverse cut scenario.
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