Notice: We request that you don't just set up a new account at this time if you are a previous user.
If you used to be one of our moderators, please feel free to reach out to Chris via the facebook Outerlimits4x4 group and he will get you set back up with access should he need you.
Recovery:If you cannot access your old email address and don't remember your password, please click here to log a change of email address so you can do a password reset.

Locker

Tech Talk for Ford, Mazda, Daihatsu & Makes that currently dont have a home.

Moderator: Tiny

Post Reply
Posts: 146
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:47 pm
Location: Slovenia

Locker

Post by nebivedu »

Where ca i find a locker for back diff?

What locker can i put on feroza's diff (backone)? ARB, Detroit,...?
I do not need sex, the government fucks me every day!
Posts: 3132
Joined: Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:22 pm
Location: Newy

Post by HotFourOk »

:rofl:

Welder or nothing mate.
[quote="RockyF70 - Coming out of the closet"]i'd be rushing out and buying an IFS rocky[/quote]
Posts: 2297
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:23 pm
Location: Melbourne-Australia

Post by MightyMouse »

Sorry mate but HotFourOk is spot on - there is NOTHING that bolts in.

Only option is to change complete rear axle. Toyota is the obvious choice as they have a 5.285 ratio available to match the stock front.

Works well but is not dead easy.
( usual disclaimers )

It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
Posts: 146
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:47 pm
Location: Slovenia

Post by nebivedu »

What is the ratio of feroza?







P.S.
Front and rear diff in feroza are the same.
I do not need sex, the government fucks me every day!
Posts: 327
Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:44 am
Location: Greece

Post by ferozamaniac »

5.285:1
www.ferozaclub.gr
[url=http://www.ferozaclub.gr][img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f387/heroicentaur/forum/sign.gif[/img][/url]
Posts: 2297
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:23 pm
Location: Melbourne-Australia

Post by MightyMouse »

Just to clarify the front and rear diff ratios are the same in a Feroza the diffs however are not identical ( front smaller ).
( usual disclaimers )

It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
Posts: 5
Joined: Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:15 am
Location: Australia

Post by mcdura »

What is the track of the Toyota axle compared to a F50.
Posts: 8556
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:34 pm
Location: Sydney

Post by RockyF75 »

aren't all diffs same front/rear when it comes to ratios? Or one will try and move quicker :?
60 + Turbo, 33"s :armsup:
Posts: 69
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:54 am
Location: Cairns

Post by guido1985 »

Does anyone know what brand or type it is? IE Borge Worner etc?

Chris
Forum Administrator of 4x4 Play FNQ

Please Visit us at [url=http://www.4x4playfnq.com]4x4 Play FNQ[/url]
Posts: 2297
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:23 pm
Location: Melbourne-Australia

Post by MightyMouse »

This is where my knowledge of the real world falls down a little.

In theory diffs don't have to be the same if the front to rear drive ratios in the transfer case are adjusted appropriately. This concept can be used to adjust the torque split between front and rear by gearing.

However having said that - I don't know if any 4WD's actually do this - everything I know about ( and that's limited ) have the same F & R ratios...

Others ?
( usual disclaimers )

It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
Posts: 2297
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:23 pm
Location: Melbourne-Australia

Post by MightyMouse »

and guido1985 the Feroza diffs are Daihatsu made even the axle spline is uncommon.

THe fact that they are 5.285, and Toytota make a 5.285 is simply a coincidence based on similar needs.

5.285 is actually a function of the crownwheel and pinion tooth count so there arn't an unlimited spread of ratios available.
( usual disclaimers )

It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
Posts: 69
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:54 am
Location: Cairns

Post by guido1985 »

ah ok thanks.
Forum Administrator of 4x4 Play FNQ

Please Visit us at [url=http://www.4x4playfnq.com]4x4 Play FNQ[/url]
Posts: 146
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:47 pm
Location: Slovenia

Post by nebivedu »

what toyota has 5,285 diffs?
I do not need sex, the government fucks me every day!
Posts: 2297
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:23 pm
Location: Melbourne-Australia

Post by MightyMouse »

Mines aftermarket but its mentioned in lots if Toyota diff specs - fits to a hilux centre
( usual disclaimers )

It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
Posts: 85
Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:07 am
Location: Barbados - Caribbean

Post by BajanFeroza »

OK guys, mechanically challanged guy here. if I need/want to lower my gear ratios (as I have put on larger 33's tyres), what would be the best way, changing differentials or gearbox or ????
Dance, like nobody's watching (As usual)
Sing, Like their all deaf (Thank god)
Live,
SPEND, because you can't take it with you. (live in DEBT)
Posts: 2297
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:23 pm
Location: Melbourne-Australia

Post by MightyMouse »

No clear answer here...

There's no interchangable diff - its a complete rear axle swap. But at 5.285:1 the Feroza's diff ratio is already higher than most vehicles. If you go toyota there's a 5.7:1 ( or thereabouts, always forget ).

Gearbox/Transfer -no interchangable gearbox so a complete transmission transfer change is required.

Whats' the actual problem you are wanting to solve ? Is it road rpm or crawl ratio ?

Have done both.
( usual disclaimers )

It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
Posts: 85
Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:07 am
Location: Barbados - Caribbean

Post by BajanFeroza »

They are both affected, on the road I experience very slow pull off and when off roading i always have to go right down to low range 1st gear for any obstical.
Although I am known for a heavy foot, this is not always the answer to every challange (BOY it has taken me awhile tol earn that).

So was looking at lowering the gear ratio to give me back my low end grunt.
Dance, like nobody's watching (As usual)
Sing, Like their all deaf (Thank god)
Live,
SPEND, because you can't take it with you. (live in DEBT)
Posts: 2297
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:23 pm
Location: Melbourne-Australia

Post by MightyMouse »

Welcome to my world....

There's really nothing you can do that isn't heaps of work - except make more engine power.

Won't solve the underlying problem - but its "doable" without heavy engineering. A DeTomaso HD-EG engine would make a difference, but will require a bit of work and a rewire to take the different ecu.
Cam might be a bit too wild but that's fixable.

If you have any other solution - please share it with me.......
( usual disclaimers )

It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
Posts: 8556
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:34 pm
Location: Sydney

Post by RockyF75 »

BajanFeroza wrote: Although I am known for a heavy foot, this is not always the answer to every challange (BOY it has taken me awhile tol earn that).
What a horrible thing to say :shock: Momentum solves everything :armsup: :twisted:
60 + Turbo, 33"s :armsup:
Posts: 2297
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:23 pm
Location: Melbourne-Australia

Post by MightyMouse »

And you pretend not to know anything about Feroza's...... :?

Still there are limits, I have the broken engine / gearbox mounts to prove it.
( usual disclaimers )

It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 28 guests