Front axel swap.

Post by **Borisovich** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:57 pm

Hello.
Does anybody have pics of toyota front axel on feroza?
I'm interested in pictures of the steering box, panhard etc...
I know that Toyhatsu made such a mod, but can't find the pics.
If you e-mail them to me it would be grait!
mgodun@inbox.ru
or just give a link to url.

Post by **MightyMouse** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:17 pm

Why not "PM" ToyHatsu directly ?

Post by **Borisovich** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:26 pm

I sent him a PM, but he's not online for couple of days. And i'm in a hurry. I thought it would be faster to ask on board.

Post by **ferozamaniac** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:44 pm

The only axle front and rear i know is from the GWAGEN that a Feroza has in Greece (i cant find him for more details)

Why you dont use an axle from a ROCKY??? As far as i know it fits with the feroza gearings

Post by **HotFourOk** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:20 pm

Rocky diffs are 3.36... aren't Roza's 5.xx sumthing?

Post by **r0ck_m0nkey** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:51 pm

HotFourOk wrote:Rocky diffs are 3.36... aren't Roza's 5.xx sumthing?

Indeed 5.285:1 actually

Post by **ferozamaniac** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:24 pm

My mistake then

Post by **Borisovich** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:31 pm

Thnx alot, ferozamaniac!

Post by **Gwagensteve** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:43 pm

I wonder what happened when he put the Gwagen axled one in 4WD?

Gwagen's spin their front drive shaft "backwards" and if used with anything other than a Gwagen transfer, the front axle will turn backwards when in 4WD.A Gwagen has a MASSIVE transfer case that's also divorce mount - getting it into a Feroza would be a challenge.

I'm not aware of a "kit" to run a live axle. The only live axled feroza I have ever seen was Besty's which ran hilux, but also had a commodore V6 and auto, hilux steering box and other pretty major modifications. It was also quite tall.

When I have looked at the feasibility of live axle on a feroza it has always looked like the car needed to be too high IMHO.

Mightymouse's car, with increased track width, does prove that the front IFS can me made to travel well.

Steve.

Post by **MightyMouse** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:26 pm

Whilst its sort of off topic, a live front axle seems to be a lot of work, without solving what I consider to be the major problem - gearing, and no rear locker.

I am just not convinced that its higher up than about No. 6 on the major to do list.

1/ Auto
2/ Gears
3/ Rear Locker
4/ Front locker
5/ More power - and that mostly for highway driving.
6/ live front ????? or long(er) travel IFS

I didn't do it in this order but in hindsight.....

Post by **pigletracing** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:22 pm

check out the picks on pigletracing on pg2 of daihatsu form,it runs toyota bundera coil front with 25mm spacers to keep it as wide as the toyota fourunner coil rear, but I am now changing it to nissan GU Patrol front & rear

Post by **MightyMouse** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:46 pm

I think the piglet is in a "slightly" different category to the rest of us - woo hoo !

I get nervous just looking at the pics.

Post by **pigletracing** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:13 pm

no dont be nervise,you should come for a ride one day,you take it for a spin & you would love it,one day Ill be down in Melb for a comp.. whenever that might be,Ill have to PM you so you can have a try..for the little amt of $$$$ required to do the mods it was worth it..& she is enginered/registered to boot

Post by **ferozamaniac** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:20 pm

Well i havent seen tha G wagen Feroza closely so as fas as i know he has the trasnfer of Feroza and swaped the engine with a Toyotta 2.7 litr. He says that know can work like a real 4x4 car.

Post by **MightyMouse** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:15 pm

That would be mindblowing, and its legal !!!!! I wondered when you mentioned going for a drive if it was on private property or the roads.

Perhaps there's hope for the mouse yet.

Post by **Gwagensteve** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:19 pm

ferozamaniac wrote:Well i havent seen tha G wagen Feroza closely so as fas as i know he has the trasnfer of Feroza and swaped the engine with a Toyotta 2.7 litr. He says that know can work like a real 4x4 car.

Well keep us posted about what happens when he puts it in 4WD

It should be fun to watch

Steve.

Post by **MightyMouse** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:50 pm

It would do impressive "digs" I am thinking

and also three sets of brakes - hydraulic, handbrake and 4WD.

Post by **ljxtreem** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:08 pm

Gwagensteve wrote:
ferozamaniac wrote:Well i havent seen tha G wagen Feroza closely so as fas as i know he has the trasnfer of Feroza and swaped the engine with a Toyotta 2.7 litr. He says that know can work like a real 4x4 car.
Well keep us posted about what happens when he puts it in 4WD It should be fun to watch

Steve.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... hp?t=91812

Flipped centre section

How else would you do it, without a Gwagon transfer

Seems like a lot of work

Mock

Post by **MightyMouse** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:26 pm

Wonder why GWagen Diffs specifically ?

Post by **Gwagensteve** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:08 pm

Because of the quality......

I'm guessing 5.7 something diff ratios and lockers, plus they're relatively narrow so easy to fit.

Flipping the diff centre would make it heavily foul the tie rod. I guess it's possible but, wow, that's a lot of work.... Merc don't do things by 1/2's so I guess the tubes wouldn't fall out

Steve.

Post by **MightyMouse** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:06 am

I suppose if you had them, that would be a start, but it seems an expensive base on which to start. Which side do they drive to ?

I just wonder why not something more "obvious" like lux stuff. For the weights involved would seem strong enough, Ratios and lockers available.
They also fit under.

Are lux's in Europe like GWagens here - rare ?

And BTW what's with the "G", has it been put out to pasture, or just on the not so important list ?

Post by **ferozamaniac** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:23 am

Here we have a lot of military Gwagen that are sold very low. Toyota Hilux with front and rear axle cant find (only if you buy the hole truck). But yes its a very strange how he did fit the GWAGEN axle. When i learnd about it i will inform you.

Post by **MightyMouse** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:07 am

Ok that explains the choice from an availablity side.

Will be interested to hear about the rest of it, and how the little challenges were solved.

Post by **Toyhatsu** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:02 pm

G'Day,

Nope, not dead yet. I haven't been here in a long while. I got a notice about a thread that I was watching years ago and found that there were PM's about axle swaping.

That is some OLD pics of me truck. It is still on the road and doing well every day. It now sits on 35's, is 3 linked in the front, 2.7L, dual xfer cases etc.

I did run the Toyota axles (5.71:1) and Daihatsu engine and transmission for years.

I'll get some piccies together and try not to be a stranger.

kent

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