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Few questions 2l swap

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Few questions 2l swap

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Will a 2l-t engine that had an auto box on it from a surf fit my 5 speed manual ln65 hilux? anything i need to know before trying to fit the new engine? the turbo has been taken off aswell so anything i need to do to run it without the turbo? i still have the dead 2l for parts if i need them

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2l-t conversion

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Gday . The answer is yes it will fit but its not worth the effort if your not running a turbo , compression too low , better of bolting in a 3L they bolt straight in too and run better non turbo and fly with a turbo. Happy driving
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i will be putting a turbo on it just not straight away need tyres first they are nearly bald :D
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kanookie wrote:i will be putting a turbo on it just not straight away need tyres first they are nearly bald :D
I am currently driving a 2l-T that is now minus the T bit .. IT SUCKS big time
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love_mud wrote:
kanookie wrote:i will be putting a turbo on it just not straight away need tyres first they are nearly bald :D
I am currently driving a 2l-T that is now minus the T bit .. IT SUCKS big time
how much worse u think it would be then the non turbo 2l?
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kanookie wrote:
love_mud wrote:
kanookie wrote:i will be putting a turbo on it just not straight away need tyres first they are nearly bald :D
I am currently driving a 2l-T that is now minus the T bit .. IT SUCKS big time
how much worse u think it would be then the non turbo 2l?
With extra fuel (I am blowing a pretty good cloud of blackness ATM) I am struggling to maintain 105 on the flat. This is with two passangers on board and thats it ( I have not driven a 2l so I cannot comment).
Hills is back to 4th and let it rev, hills that with turbo I could climb at 105-110 in 5th I am back to 75-80 in 4th. (I was running factory boost if 7psi)

I would find a cheap set of second hand tyres and buy a turbo. I am awaiting mine to be rebuilt, I am also attempting to make an adapter to tun an IHI turbo with a bit more modern design than the factory CT20.
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Re: 2l-t conversion

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38zook wrote:better of bolting in a 3L they bolt straight in too and run better non turbo and fly with a turbo.
Fly with a turbo? I havn't heard this before. I thought most people didn't think much of them.

Not having a go, I really just am confused thats all :? . I've all but given up on putting a 15B in the lux, now I'm still searching, and if the 3L 2.8TD really it that good it might be worth reconsidering...
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My older bro had a non turbo 3L .. was about the same performance wise as the standard 2l-T. A slightly leaned on 2l-T would beat it, but a turbo 3L would leave the 2l-T for dead.
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Highway-Star wrote:
38zook wrote:better of bolting in a 3L they bolt straight in too and run better non turbo and fly with a turbo.
Fly with a turbo? I havn't heard this before. I thought most people didn't think much of them.

Not having a go, I really just am confused thats all :? . I've all but given up on putting a 15B in the lux, now I'm still searching, and if the 3L 2.8TD really it that good it might be worth reconsidering...
The 3L 2.8litre diesel engine was never turboed at the factory. Turbos usually fitted are from the 2LT engine and aftermarket ones such as garret.

There's a 5L engine, 3litre which was also never turboed.

There is also an engine called 1KZ, newer version 1KD, which were turboed. These are 3 litre engines.
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gotoy wrote: There's a 5L engine, 3litre which was also never turboed.
I think you will find there were some factory turbo 5l's just not terribly common
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love_mud wrote:
gotoy wrote: There's a 5L engine, 3litre which was also never turboed.
I think you will find there were some factory turbo 5l's just not terribly common
Not that I know about. Perhaps you mean the 3litre 1KZ or 1KD engines.
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gotoy wrote:
love_mud wrote:
gotoy wrote: There's a 5L engine, 3litre which was also never turboed.
I think you will find there were some factory turbo 5l's just not terribly common
Not that I know about. Perhaps you mean the 3litre 1KZ or 1KD engines.
I think you are correct .. (1kz)
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Re: 2l-t conversion

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love_mud wrote:
gotoy wrote:
love_mud wrote:
gotoy wrote: There's a 5L engine, 3litre which was also never turboed.
I think you will find there were some factory turbo 5l's just not terribly common
Not that I know about. Perhaps you mean the 3litre 1KZ or 1KD engines.
I think you are correct .. (1kz)
I almost went for a 5l for my bundy. During searching I never came across a turboed version. I went for the 1KZ in the end.
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thanks all for u help would go a 3l but just dont have the cash atm and need to get it back on the road as soon as we can got this new engine fairly cheap so ill have money soon for turbo and tyres :D

anything i should stay away from when doing the swap? is there anything we can stuff up? sorry just not used to diesels
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kanookie wrote:thanks all for u help would go a 3l but just dont have the cash atm and need to get it back on the road as soon as we can got this new engine fairly cheap so ill have money soon for turbo and tyres :D

anything i should stay away from when doing the swap? is there anything we can stuff up? sorry just not used to diesels
If you are going to run a CT20 (Factory turbo) and dont have oil lines etc PM me I have a few sets kicking around as well as 1 spare (possibly two) turbo exhaust mainfolds to suit the 2l and 1 turbo spare inlet manifold.

If you are going to run more than factory boost fit a bigger bore exhaust 2.25 to 3 inch. Get a boost guage and exhaust pyro (measures exhaust gas temps so you dont melt you pistons/bust heads) if possible fit the temp probe into the exhaust mainifold before the turbo so you get the most accurate reading.

Bleed the fuel system really well, air in the system stuffs you up big time (nothing fatal, just a PITA)

I am sure those more knowlegeable than I will pipe up at some stage.
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love_mud wrote:
kanookie wrote:thanks all for u help would go a 3l but just dont have the cash atm and need to get it back on the road as soon as we can got this new engine fairly cheap so ill have money soon for turbo and tyres :D

anything i should stay away from when doing the swap? is there anything we can stuff up? sorry just not used to diesels
If you are going to run a CT20 (Factory turbo) and dont have oil lines etc PM me I have a few sets kicking around as well as 1 spare (possibly two) turbo exhaust mainfolds to suit the 2l and 1 turbo spare inlet manifold.

If you are going to run more than factory boost fit a bigger bore exhaust 2.25 to 3 inch. Get a boost guage and exhaust pyro (measures exhaust gas temps so you dont melt you pistons/bust heads) if possible fit the temp probe into the exhaust mainifold before the turbo so you get the most accurate reading.

Bleed the fuel system really well, air in the system stuffs you up big time (nothing fatal, just a PITA)

I am sure those more knowlegeable than I will pipe up at some stage.
tbanks will let u know if i need them. already have a 2.5 inch exhaust on it now any tips on bleeding fuel system?
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