Bottom end troubles- 80series Cruiser

[GRIMACE]

Hey My cousins had some trouble with his 80series.

He started noticing a ticking sound goin with the revs speed.
Took the car into to Sean @ South East Qld 4x4 last Thursday.

On friday we were told that the fault was the Crankshaft. Apparently the bearins down there should be replaced every 100000Km.

So my cousin needs to change the bearings and machine the crank?
Sean told him it would cost alot of money so we gonna do as much work our selves.
He only wants to get it fixed so he can sell the junk and buy either a Range Rover or a Zook .

So what do you guys recomend we do? Sorce a bottom end rebuild kit do it all ourselves? Strip everything off the motor and take only it to a repairer(to save on labour cost)?
OR Buy a whole engine to replace it ?

Just got off the phone with Gary and he thinks the rod of one of the pistons may be slightly bent aswell cousins not gonna be happy.

[tritonasuras]

didn't toyota do a recall on this problem ????

[GRIMACE]

TELL ME MORE ? ? ?

I was told it was not uncommon for these big end bearins to wear and then the crank bein damaged which lead to bent rods on afew pistons aswell ? ? ?

My cousin is not happy I told him he should buy a Range Rover But atm he is lookin at getting a cheap Zuuk.

[dow50r]

Gday
If it is an early 80 with the 1hdt motor, there was a recall on these bigend brgs. Check out www.lcool.org and ask away-site was formed with this problem.
Usually,you wont need the crank done, just a set of bearings, costs 4-500 bucks for some other mechanic to do, or complain, complain complain to Toyota.
Andrew

[al winter]

Hi there, I've just had my 91 Turbo diesel Cruiser done, it cost me $600 at the Toyota place in Mandurah. Big-end bearings replaced, oil and filter change. Its running beaut now, ticking noise gone. I wouldn't leave it too before changing them....Al

[dumbdunce]

its only a three banana job to do yourself (change big end bearings) but to drop the crank and/or change the main bearings requires the engine removed from the vehicle and completely disassembled.

the only special tools you need to do the big end bearings are a torque wrench and a 12 point 12mm socket. you also have to love oil in your hair, no matter how long you let the engine drain it keeps dripping while you're under there.

[GRIMACE]

Looking at that site now thanks guys, Might get onto toyota and see what they say.

Any other information would be very helpfull, thanks once again.

[Kev80]

Forget Toyota, they don't want anything to do with it now, maybe 6 years ago !

The idea is to replace the bearings every 100,000km before you notice any problems for insurance, once you get to your mates stage ya up for a full bottom end rebuild = big $$$.

Surely some one told him about this problem before it happened, most do, just they hope they get away without doing anything.

[GRIMACE]

My father owned the car b4 him from new and nun of us ever herd of the fault, the only reason we found it out is cause of my askin about how much it would cost to fix.

Shit aye well we already contacted Toyota see what happens, they probably tell us to Go Get FARKED ! ! !

But yeah My father owned a service station and all for over 8 year and the car was serviced regularly just never knew anything about it.


So he is up for a full bottom end rebuild HE IS GONNA BE PISSED

FARKEN TOYOTA peices of shit................. Definately Glad i bought a Range Rover

[ORSM45]

...FARKEN TOYOTA peices of shit................. Definately Glad i bought a Range Rover...

yeah a much better choice... ...if you like your axles twisted into a knot

[dumbdunce]

and everything leaking, and electrical fires....

[ORSM45]

dont forget a spare boat anchor under the bonnet.

[Thor]

:lol: dont forget a spare boat anchor under the bonnet.

[GRIMACE]

Mate I havnt had neither of the above.............

The toyo has some farked up brakes, strip the front C&P, now the bearing problem.................. owww and lets not start on my uncles GU bending the driveshaft & C&P.
And another thing there so fricken slow

I dont know these people sayin RRs are so unreliable.......... and apparently chew fuel.......... I get the same fuel economy as my mothers 4.5L Petrol Cruiser.

Id go a Zook or Range Rover anyday. Exspecially at my low budget.
I do like the old 40series cruisers though, just seems the newer the 4by the worse it is.

[GRIMACE]

and everything leaking, and electrical fires....

I have also been very lucky and my rr only leaked from the bottom of the filler tube for my transmission 4dollars and ITS ALL FIXED
Shouldnt have said that I probably jinxed myself now

[Punchy]

i own an TD 80 and never heard a problem.

But i did hear about it and checked them and thank god i did


Number three big end was fuked and a few others were real average.

36$ dollars saw the purchase of some nice tri metal ACL bearings and a tube of chemical sealant for 17 $ to complete the fix and installation

total cost of job

1 bottle of coke 3.30
1 bearing set 36.00
1 tube of poo 17.00
10 ltrs of engine oil 40.00
4 hours of my time
total = 1 happy and relieved owner for
$86.30

Who paid $600 .... You bloody mug !

[Kev80]

Obviously payes to check,

A mate has a 80 series & decided to change the bearings just to be on the safe side & while he was saving up for a week or two to drop it in to get done the bearings let go causing thousands.

Two weeks to late, not happy !!!

[dumbdunce]

1 tube of poo 17.00
1

eh??

[Kev80]

"tube of poo"

Cruiser engines sumps use a tube of sealant instead of a gaskit.

[dumbdunce]

I know. I've done more than a few sets of big end bearings on them. just that my poo never looked that blue (or red or grey or black) and never smelled like salt and vinegar chips

if anyone wants to buy my poo for $17 they're welcome to it!

[+dj_hansen+]

Dumbdance: my poo never looked that blue (or red or grey or black)

Obviously never gone hard on the powerade.. Jamborree 1998.. such funny memories (only a scout would understand)

[dumbdunce]

ewww I don't think I want to understand

[Kev80]

[GRIMACE]

Just thought I would up date you on my cousins crusier troubles.

1. Still no response from toyota..................
2. Got a set of bearings and oils etc from Global. changed all bearings (No4 was stuffed) WORKS LIKE NEW

So much for the thousands of dollars that the mechanic wanted, he he I checked the crank and all were perfect except the number 4 it was slightly scratchy but not too bad and nuthing wleded or stuck to it, So i went for the easy change bearings option and seems to be fine.

who said I was dodgy

[Kev80]

and all were perfect except the number 4 it was slightly scratchy but not too bad

BAD IDEA !

Crankshafts & bearings are more delicate than you think.

I 100% guarentee that the new bearing will flog out again very soon, trust me !

You must re-grind & linish the crank for it to last.

[GRIMACE]

YEAH

WE ALREADY FOUND THAT OUT

My cousin is pissed HE JUST WANTED TO SELL THE DAMN THING

But its farked and as he currently stands, he couldnt even be farked doin anything................... What sorta sale value would a 91 cruiser in this state of (COMPLETELY FARKED) condition be ? ? ?

Anyone interested, any offer will be passed on to my cousin and notified of his response what can he do................

Owelll back to square one and beyond pissed off.............

[dumbdunce]