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I now have 3 ROCKY's!! (now my engine swap thread)

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I now have 3 ROCKY's!! (now my engine swap thread)

Post by RockyF75 »

:D :D :D :D :D

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Just picked up one of the two Rocky's I bought for parts, both 1987 TD's :armsup: The plan is to fix one of the engines up, then transplant it into mine. Then flog as many of the remaining parts as possible.

Got a few questions, do the 87 models have LSD rear? I should have checked while I was there but couldn't find a jack :x .

Will a 87 model engine bolt up to a 84's gearbox? These ones have the vacuum operated 4H button, and I don't wanna stuff around installing all that into mine.

And if anyone needs a spare gearbox, diff, panels, tailshafts, axle's, etc etc etc (or a TD engine, no compression tho with 730 000ks !!), PM me :D Will be posting F/S's once I get organized with what I want/don't want.

Pretty stoked atm, I can weld the front diff and have 2sets of spare drivelines :rofl:
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Post by BundyRumandCoke »

Thats not spare parts. Wait till you get a LWB chokkas, front to back, and another side of the house full of panels, and thats after you have ditched a heap of old panels, and you still have a rolling chassis, and the remains of another rolling chassis in the front yard, then you can say you have a spare or two. And yes, the gearbox will bolt up.
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Post by RockyF75 »

BundyRumandCoke wrote:And yes, the gearbox will bolt up.
Sweeet.

I was 90% sure, just needed to hear it from someone else :lol:

So now we know how you got them 2 detroits, bought every rocky you could get your hands on and got lucky eventually :D

There is still one more 80% complete car I haven't got any pics of yet. Going to be a PITA to move cause its diffs are mostly in pieces.
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Post by Danwa »

Any spare rocky tail lights ?

i'd like to replace my roza's rear bumper lights with some body mounted ones
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Post by BundyRumandCoke »

Danwa, I have about 3 spare sets here.
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Post by dai-hard »

I need a rear tailshaft. Crunched mine on some rocks today and got a vibration. :cry:
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Post by Spartacus »

nice work dude. u now have 3 piles of crap on your front lawn :finger:
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Post by RockyF75 »

Spartacus wrote:nice work dude. u now have 3 piles of crap on your front lawn :finger:
Pff

1's still in the guys shed
1's at a friends place
and 1's on my mum's front lawn :D

My lawn just has weeds :armsup:
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Post by RockyF75 »

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Engines out. So far, it needs:
Water pump
Timing belt
Timing Belt cover
Thermostat Housing
Harmonic Balancer
and a general cleanup
and the timing belt tensioner, AND the fan :roll:
Going to be a bit more of a pita than 1st thought. About 1/2 of these items I should be able to pull of the other rocky, but the thermostat housing is missing on both, and I'd probly wanna get a new water pump anyway, rather than put an old possibly worn one in and change it later.

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Post by Big-Stu »

You can get one on good old Ebay for $125.
Just do a search on Daihatsu Rocky.

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Presently with Rocky motor and gearbox removed from vehicle and sitting in the middle of the garage floor. New clutch, HD pressure plate, timing belt, tensioner, front oil seal being replaced when the parts arrive early this week.
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Post by dai-hard »

Probly got most of the stuff you need.Not sure what to do with my old diesel donk :?
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Post by RockyF75 »

Degreased and cleaned the engine today, all shiny :cool:

Never had a shiny engine before, and I still have some work to do if I want it perfect, bit of grease still around the turbo and oil cooler. Also examined the clutch and plate, and it looks like I'll be needing a new kit, plates worn and the springs in the clutch are a bit shot.

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Post by stariondriver »

BundyRumandCoke wrote:Danwa, I have about 3 spare sets here.
you have a driver rear to suit my '90 rocky?
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Post by HotFourOk »

You want my old clutch :D

You're gonna hate the prices mate

RPM standard replacement clutch RRP $663. (Repco)

Exedy HD Sports Tuff RRP $620.... trade price $443 :armsup: :armsup:
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Post by RockyF75 »

HotFourOk wrote:You want my old clutch :D

You're gonna hate the prices mate

RPM standard replacement clutch RRP $663. (Repco)

Exedy HD Sports Tuff RRP $620.... trade price $443 :armsup: :armsup:
Then I'll be using one of my other old ones :D

I take it those prices are for the whole kit not just the clutch?
There were some on ebay a while ago for $350ish, but gone now :cry:
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Post by runnin4life »

the other TD motor didnt make its way into a blue rocky ute did it ?
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Post by RockyF75 »

Nah mate that ute's had a TD for yonks, I only just got these two Rockys, and I've still got both engines.
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Post by runnin4life »

sweet yer i was talking to eric about it the other day only noticed he had the TD recently lol's
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Post by RockyF75 »

Well, I've now officially got a sponsor :D

And as such, my clutch and timing kits arrived today :armsup: at cost price :armsup:

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So if you need any parts, whether it be 4x4 or 2x4, go to http://www.ripperdeals.com/

Websites still getting built but just email him and he can get you a quote on pretty much anything automotive. Parts, tools, accessories. All at very competitive prices, and I can vouch first hand he will go out of his way to help. Plus he's already had at least one experience dealing with Daihatsu's :lol:

So this Saturday the old engine will start to be removed, and I'll fit the clutch and timing kit to the new one. Just wondering if its worth doing the rear main seal whilst the engines out?

BTW, if anyone's interested the Clutch is worth $310 plus freight, and timing kit $225 plus freight. I rang ripco for an idea on timing kit and they said $185 just for the belt :shock: no roller or tensioner
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Post by BPB02 »

hi i am was just wondering how big the diesel engines are in the rockys, i have just started looking at buying one,and this thread seems like a good place to ask. and how hard are they to find in decent condition?
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Post by RockyF75 »

BPB02 wrote:hi i am was just wondering how big the diesel engines are in the rockys, i have just started looking at buying one,and this thread seems like a good place to ask. and how hard are they to find in decent condition?
The whole car or just an engine?

Their a 2.8. Not huge but pretty tall.
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Post by RockyF75 »

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I had some funny pics taken of me standing in the empty engine bay doing a Fred Flinstone, but the camera stuffed up so this is the only one I got :cry:

Anyway, she's in, its mated up to the bellhousing just nicely and the drive shaft. Just need to bolt on the bits and pieces and plumb it all up... and it all needs to be done by next week so I can drive down to sydney :shock:



Now can anyone with a TD tell me what the 2 Hoses comming out of the top of the turbo are for? One goes to the fuel compensator so I figure I need that, but there's also another hose out of the fuel compensator, going to a small part mounted on the body with 2 electrical wires on it? What does that do? I really dont want to have to wire it up electrically.

Also, there is another one (electrical component) next to it, that has a hose to the top of the turbo, and another to the vacume pump. I'm lead to believe that its a limter of some sort for boost in 1st gear? While some one else has said it might be something that controls the wastegate and how much boost you run :? I dont wanna blow this engine up by running too much boost so what do I do. And if I where to want to hook up a boost guage, where/how do I do it? Mate with an older TD says his is attached to this bit at the top of the turbo that I'm talking about :?
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Post by dai-hard »

i could be wrong but i think 1 goes to the vsv valve on the gearbox(for the 1st gear thing) and the other is as you said to the boost compensator.
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Post by HotFourOk »

As I explained to Nathan last night, one is the 1st gear fuel reduction and one is the idle up control.
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Post by Big-Stu »

If you got the service manual go to page EM-74.
The pipe goes to the VSV valve to limit the boost in 1st gear.

Mine is a factory turbo setup and the pipework seems slightly different to yours.

My boost gauge is connected with a t piece in the By-pass valve line, which is that round thing up next to the turbo. I can't see one in your engine pictures.

I must figure out how to insert images one day.

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Post by HotFourOk »

Big-Stu wrote:If you got the service manual go to page EM-74.
The pipe goes to the VSV valve to limit the boost in 1st gear.

Mine is a factory turbo setup and the pipework seems slightly different to yours.

My boost gauge is connected with a t piece in the By-pass valve line, which is that round thing up next to the turbo. I can't see one in your engine pictures.

I must figure out how to insert images one day.

Stu
Both motors are factory turbo setups.

Nathan has a DL-51, and by the sounds of it you have a DL-52 like me.

The VSV limits the fuel delivery, not boost as such. But either way, power is dramtically decreased.
If you are still using it, I recommend you try it without the VSV. :armsup:
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Post by tabrocky »

HotFourOk wrote: Both motors are factory turbo setups.

Nathan has a DL-51, and by the sounds of it you have a DL-52 like me.

The VSV limits the fuel delivery, not boost as such. But either way, power is dramtically decreased.
If you are still using it, I recommend you try it without the VSV. :armsup:
I second that. BIG difference without it. :D
Not sure why daihatsu even bothered putting it on. Emissions or something maybe.

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Post by RockyF75 »

woop woop, music to my ears.

Not only do I not need them but it will go better without em. I like :D

Start bolting crap together tomorrow and if all goes well I'll be going for a drive to baptize it, should be some mud since we had a bit of rain here tonight. :armsup:
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Post by RockyF75 »

:bad-words: :bad-words: :bad-words:

NO

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COMPRESSION

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bummer
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