Aust Short course entry levels

[v8grunt]

Standard class

max- 33" tyres
max- 2" body lift
max- 2" spring
or no body lift with up to 4" spring lift
no locking diffs no shimed up limos
engine original fittment
all vehicles in this category must be road legal and have registration.

Modified class

max- 35" tyres
body- body modifications must be engineer approved
chassis- all chassis mods must be engineer approved
suspension- any suspension mods are approved eg 5link or coil
conversion. any doubts phone for details
suspension- not approved buggyleafs or driver controled leveling
systems.
engine- replacement engines must be engineer approved.
diffs - diff locks are approved
drive line- any drive line mods are approved.

Modified open class

max- tyre size is unlimited
suspension- any engineered system.
engine- any engineered engine

All vehicles in any category must be road registered and carry secure tow points front and rear. tow strap.
WE ARE NOT ENGINEERS OR MECHANICS
Scrutuneering will consist of inspection of tow points, lights, recovery equipment, drivers licence, registration, hand brake and seat belts.

Any vehicle deamed unsafe will not be entered.
Soft top vehicles, drivers must wear standards approved helmets

There IS NO MUD OR DEEP WATER AS PART OF THIS COMP.

This is not a winching event.

All rules will be given to competitors prior to start of the event.

ENQUIRES to Glen 32451645 a/h OR Mick 32827269 a/h

JAN 18 -19 competitor introduction to comp tracks at Landcruiser Mountain Park. phone or email for invitation.

[RUFF]

Awsome this is gunna be awwwn

All those rules look basic and easily understood which is real good.

[v8grunt]

thanks ruff we cater for drivers here.

[v8grunt]

THE ASCC will have a safety vehicle and personal this year thanks to ENFORCER SUSPENSION, DOG TYRED, ARCTIC COOL TREADS, OUTER LIMITS 4X4 . COM and MILNE & CO.

this vehicle will have dry chemical and foam fire exhingshers, medical kit. and a P/A system.

[bj on roids]

Loving your work glenn, ill bring tha yellow POS 8)

is this in mid-january? sounds good!

[big red]

cool, i'll be there, glad you have the open class, might have a chance in the moddified class now

[v8grunt]

we had the open modified running last year but not scored with the modified, you will go well from what i saw of you at the logan november extreme run, remember you drove C/P 6 when some more capable cars had trouble, aparently.

glen

[bubs]

Might have a blue / green / maybe orange 4 runner in standard class this year

[v8grunt]

there better be one there.

glen

ruff has won the hill climb in modified in his lux to the horror of some.

[bubs]

there better be one there.

glen

ruff has won the hill climb in modified in his lux to the horror of some.

any dates so i can prepare - cause if they have been released i have missed them

[v8grunt]

practice weekend 18 -19 january
round one 1-2 march

practice weekend you need to email or phone me to enter for special price. 8)

[bj on roids]

any prizes or trophies in the practice round?

[v8grunt]

you allready have the trophy your in my mums bedroom. b.jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj

[bj on roids]

ROFL does mum not get edited by the swear word sensor?

already have what trophy?

there was no trophies in there!!
next time you are there can you get my pants back...thanks 8)

[RUFF]

ROFL does mum not get edited by the swear word sensor?

As long as you dont continue to be an idiot with it

[ToNkA]

Hey, you say its a non winch event, but you will need one if you get stuck though right?

[RUFF]

No there will be recovery vehicles if needed but usually with Glens courses there is always somewhere to back, back out of or get around an obstical. From memory a winch is a DNF.

[bubs]

I am going to be there

[v8grunt]

No there will be recovery vehicles if needed but usually with Glens courses there is always somewhere to back, back out of or get around an obstical. From memory a winch is a DNF.

no winching. winchs don't drive 4wds. people do. tracks are set to allow for recovery and we do have vehicles ready for recovery when needed.

glen

[ToNkA]

Im keen to start competing thats all, dont have a winch.

I have all requirements of standard class, but I have a shortened tray on my lux......

Is that still ok?

What about gearing, ie/ rockhopper gear sets etc its not mentioned in standard class.

Also, do I need to be a member of a Club etc?

Cheers

The Tonka mobile might just make an appearance.

[v8grunt]

no tonka your tray is not a problem and gear set or change of ratio in diffs or gesr/trans box is not a problem either. the point of standard class is suspension set up and driver ability. thats why we don't allow diff locks or traction aids.

glen

[spazbot]

but if one was to put in 5.29s and a 4.7 transfer it would make a hell of a differance compared to a stock lux with the same lift

[Cheezy4x4]

As I read the entry conditions, If I were to run 35" tyres on the Mav, I can enter in the Modified section, as the Mav is totaly engineered as is.

[1MadEngineer]

Mick/Glen,
V8zuki(mick) wants to know if his rig is OK to enter open, its still got full rego & insurance???

Greg...

[RUFF]

Yep thats how it is Cheezy. Tyre sizes basicaly make up the last 2 sections.

[bubs]

Tonka ya gunna come up to QLD - sweet

[v8grunt]

but if one was to put in 5.29s and a 4.7 transfer it would make a hell of a differance compared to a stock lux with the same lift

gear ratio in standard class is really no advantage. the tracks are set to cater for a broad range of vehicle, for example, a track is generally about 200 to 300 mtrs long and may have any of the following included, drop off ledge of up to 5mtr nearing vertical followed closely by a near vertical climb of up to 8mtrs, in this you will need to have taller gears and momentum to clear this on the first attempt. there may be rocks or log in the bottom of a large hole were the vehicle is on a severe side angle this you will need to have a good spoter to finish, this is just a small part of a track that will take up to 15 min to finish. the modified tracks are not the same tracks as used for the standards for this reason, each category has tracks to suit vehicle ability. the gorge track at black duck valley is used only for modified and takes most vehicles about 12 min to complete, this same track is not used for open modified, TJpete tried to drive this track and could not finish, he made it only to the half way mark and his jeep had to be recovered. so you see there is a lot of thought put into the design of tracks for each category,

there is no time limit on the tracks but you may not stop without penalty, the challenge is to be able to finish the track with the lowest penalty count and when the drivers see what conforns them in each track the pressure is really on. all of the tracks are driven proir to any event it is pointless seting a track that can't be completed.

glen

[v8grunt]

As I read the entry conditions, If I were to run 35" tyres on the Mav, I can enter in the Modified section, as the Mav is totaly engineered as is.

CHEESY your mav could enter modified if you were to run 35" tyres. having said that, your wheel base would have an advantage in areas of the comp tracks and areas that would not be to your liking, this is because we have to cater for long and short cars and show no advantage for either, this is were the challenge comes in. your car would go well in the first 3 off 5 tracks because of the way your truck is set up but you may struggle with the last 2 being generally fairly steep in nature , more to suit a truck which is long.

the mav is one of the best set up trucks i have seen and you certainly can drive the thing. the point of modified is to have vehicles that can be driven on road legally and can be driven in comps successfully. we all know these cars are driven daily and are generally well set up for competitions.

open modified is a little differant in that we still want the vehicles to resemble the road going models but with sound engineering to make them a step above the rest along with those who build and drive them.
we make no secret of this.

the mav could enter either cat but would be more suited to open modified.

i hope this makes sense

glen

[Cheezy4x4]

Thanks Glen, I was just making a point, If I were to enter I would enter under Open Class, and hopefully I will enter a couple of events in 2003.

[v8grunt]

I thought modified maybe a little down the food chain for your rig, it is good to let people know about the comp because it's very differant to all the others, Steve Hobbs was looking at running something like this in VIC but he probably needs to see how it works first, he may be up in march for the first round. the good think about the short course is the fact that innsurrance is not a problem due to the lack of timed events and no winching. Mention time or winching and innsurrance goes through the roof.

glen