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1HDT Wont Go Since changing injector pump!!!

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1HDT Wont Go Since changing injector pump!!!

Post by vSAHARAx »

Hey all,

as above changed the injector pump on my cruiser, got one that was recoed about 50k ago and because mine is leaking.

Everything is in, and it just wont go!!! will crank its little heart out, towed it up and down the street and nothing, cracked all the injectors and bled as much air as i could but the batteries couldnt handle too much cranking.

Any body got any suggestions???

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Post by PGS 4WD »

Pump timing likely out, make sure all the marks line up. You may have to get a dial indicator and check the pump timing against TDC.

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Post by vSAHARAx »

Thought timing would be okay, managed to change the pump without taking the timing belt off.

Is the key on the taper the same on all the 1hdt injector pumps???

the pump come out of my mums car. the motor is rooted as she cooked it, is it possible that the pump is buggered or the solenoid is stuffed due to the heat???
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Post by dow50r »

Should be fine...just check all the wires and make sure the pump is on the mark, look for blown fuse on ecu or whatever controls fuel cutoff... if all is ok loosen the injecter lines and turn it over with another car running and jumper leads on the batteries....if no diesel comes out it is pointing to the fuel cut off not working or the fuel is not primed to the pump yet. How much fuel is in your tank??
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Post by roscoFJ73 »

I would be checking the fuel cut solenoid 1st. It should make an audible click as it switched on/off.
Its ok to run a temporary wire to the battery
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Post by dumbdunce »

I put fitty cents on blown fuse for the fuel shutoff solenoid. really should get the timing professionally checked, a small variation can make a big difference in economy and power.
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Post by mud4b »

vSAHARAx wrote: managed to change the pump without taking the timing belt off.
how the hell did you do that?????

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Post by plowy »

mud4b wrote:
vSAHARAx wrote: managed to change the pump without taking the timing belt off.
how the hell did you do that?????

cheers mark
yes how did you manage to keep the belt tight on the timing gear so to stop it from skipping a tooth ?
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Post by Dzltec »

1hdt engines have an injection pump that is gear driven, the timing belt sits at the front to drive the cam only from the pump gear.

If the key is still located in the driveshaft, you cant not put the pump in incorrectly. Is the pump full of fuel, does it come out of the overflow bolt at the back. Is there power to the stop solenoid? Do you have the injector lines in the correct sequence? Just in case is the cam timing correct? Does fuel come out of the injector lines when cracked?

It may be better to remove all the glow plugs so there is no lad whilst cranking it over.


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Post by vSAHARAx »

Dzltec wrote:1hdt engines have an injection pump that is gear driven, the timing belt sits at the front to drive the cam only from the pump gear.

If the key is still located in the driveshaft, you cant not put the pump in incorrectly. Is the pump full of fuel, does it come out of the overflow bolt at the back. Is there power to the stop solenoid? Do you have the injector lines in the correct sequence? Just in case is the cam timing correct? Does fuel come out of the injector lines when cracked?

It may be better to remove all the glow plugs so there is no lad whilst cranking it over.


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Thats how i did it without taking the timing belt off :lol: everything went in fine, made sure the key was in the same position as the one that was removed. The pump had no diesel in when installed, there is deisel comming out of all injectors when cracked, although in saying that its not coming out at great pressure, only thing i can think of is that the pump is not yet properly primed, so when the injector lines are all connected it doesnt have the psi to open the injectors. could this be possible???
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Post by Dzltec »

Remove the overflow bolt from the back of the injector pump, just above the stop solenoid. Prime the system with the primer handle on the filter housing until fuel comes out. Put the fitting back in, just crank it over until it starts. The fuel pressure in the pump will shift air out of the injector lines. If in doubt, leave one loose and wait until fuel appears at the injector.


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Post by hdj105 »

vSAHARAx wrote:[, there is deisel comming out of all injectors when cracked, although in saying that its not coming out at great pressure
So when cranking it or towing it, does grey smoke (atomised unburnt fuel) come from the exhaust? If not, it's not getting any fuel.
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Post by vSAHARAx »

all fixed put the old pump back on. that pump must be buggered, just has no pressure! but now the tappets seem to be making alot more noise then before! have no idea what the hell is goin on with it, drives and goes fine just alot more rattley

Cheers again Troy
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Post by dumbdunce »

vSAHARAx wrote:all fixed put the old pump back on. that pump must be buggered, just has no pressure! but now the tappets seem to be making alot more noise then before! have no idea what the hell is goin on with it, drives and goes fine just alot more rattley

Cheers again Troy
injection timing too advanced?
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Post by rampagingturtle »

hey mate

the way your lucks runnin i,d be tilt trayin it to diesel australia or somewhere like that
i been readin your posts about yours n your mums 80,s
you really have been coppin a fistin dude :bad-words: :bad-words:
i,d say your mums pump is cactus from heat judgin from fotos

did you get rid of your mums car yet
it would a been right up my alley only i got no funds
you should really persist with the 80
i went from a 60 to an 80 and i love mine
wish ihad another 80 for spares
now have a new toy.4"lifted n locked t/d 105 series. ya f*#@ken hoo
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Post by vSAHARAx »

dumbdunce wrote:
vSAHARAx wrote:all fixed put the old pump back on. that pump must be buggered, just has no pressure! but now the tappets seem to be making alot more noise then before! have no idea what the hell is goin on with it, drives and goes fine just alot more rattley

Cheers again Troy
injection timing too advanced?
Hey Dunce, i think the pump is just buggered, put the old pump back in and it lives again!!!

Hey rampagingturtle, i sold my 89 sahara for the 80, sometimes i wish i kept it but i love the 80, its an awsome truck, just gotta sort out all the little gremlins and then she'll be smooth sailing (i hope)

Cheers everyone
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Post by Lux_89 »

far out bud you cant get any luck of l8. really hope all goes well and yeh maybe trip to dzl aus wouldnt be too bad of an idea? Chris
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Post by vSAHARAx »

Lux_89 wrote:far out bud you cant get any luck of l8. really hope all goes well and yeh maybe trip to dzl aus wouldnt be too bad of an idea? Chris
Yeah hasnt been much fun, between family troubles, gf cheating on me, career confusion and sickness makes all my car troubles the least of my problems. But hey sh!t can only get better!!!
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Post by scottmcguinness172 »

sometimes an older truck can be better :P i had a hj75 before my 80 series i couldnt break it or make it stop was your plug on the back of the injector pump plugged in and did u undo the glow plug wire or anything?
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