5.12 diff gears

Post by **camo** » Fri Nov 14, 2003 6:52 pm

can some one please tell me what year range the 5.12 vitara ring and pinion gears came out of?

i know this has proberly been said before but i went back 13 pages and could not find what i was looking for

thanks

camo

my plan is to run series 3 rockhopper with 5.12 and 34 boggers

any help is welcome

i am sorry for repeating this question again

Post by **No Idea** » Fri Nov 14, 2003 9:33 pm

As far as I know, I got mine out of an auto vitara

Post by **oozuk** » Fri Nov 14, 2003 10:08 pm

90% of the vitara's had 5.13 Ratio's in the 1600's but some select few also came out with 4.88 Ratio's

when you do it you need to get 2 Vitara front diff centres and strip them of the Ring and pinion and then install them into your diff centres

Post by **camo** » Sat Nov 15, 2003 12:05 pm

thank you

Post by **Beastmavster** » Sat Nov 15, 2003 1:24 pm

Should be Carby 1600 and SWB get 5.12

LWB EFI shoulb be 4.555 and Auto should be 4.875.

Dunno what happened when the short wheelbase went EFI.

As far as laters V6's and all that havent got a clue

Post by **stephen** » Sun Nov 16, 2003 8:29 am

My LWB 1.6 efi was 5.12

LWB EFI shoulb be 4.555 and Auto should be 4.875.

Post by **Beastmavster** » Sun Nov 16, 2003 10:02 pm

stephen wrote:My LWB 1.6 efi was 5.12

LWB EFI shoulb be 4.555 and Auto should be 4.875.

Hmmmmm. What model was it? There's a few changes on the way and I'm not sure about exactly whena dn why they occurred.

Anyway, there are plenty of 5.125 centres around, and any wrecker should know which is which.

Remember this is 37% shorter than stock Sierra 1.3.... so you need 35"s to make near stock gearing... Considering that the Sierra is so badly geared for road use anyway..... you will be making your high range about 30% shorter with a series 3 rockhopper.

Hope you like pulling 6000rpm on the highway. Not good for your motor

More people tend to try and get the much rarer 4.6 centres instead, which sounds more sensible to me with the series III hopper.

You'll need two sets of fronts though, not a front and rear.

Post by **greg** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:20 am

Sorry guys,

You've all missed the most important part of camo's thread:

camo wrote:my plan is to run series 3 rockhopper with 5.12 and 34 boggers

sweeeeet.

How wide are the boggers camo?

Post by **camo** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:53 am

i am thinking very hard about the 34 x 9.5 boggers
they just seem like the perfect thing for a zook!!

2in wheel spacers for some extra width

i am subscribing to the gear it low, keep it light idea

and this is a play car no hi-way work, no daily drive if i have to go more than 100kms from base for a weekend i will tow it!!!

Post by **greg** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:07 am

camo wrote:i am thinking very hard about the 34 x 9.5 boggers
they just seem like the perfect thing for a zook!!

Sounds great - but do you mean Super Swampers?

i don't think boggers come in a 34x9.5... (currently they don't come in 34xanything).

www.intercotire.com

Post by **Beastmavster** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:21 pm

Coool.... if it's a play car only then no issues for highway gearing, so no problem. Just wanted to make sure that you'd considered botha high and low range.

As high's not relevant for your intended use,

Go for it!

:lol:

Post by **camo** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:33 pm

my bad

i did mean super swamper's
bogger's would be nice but at 14'' wide i just dont think the zook will handle it :cry:

still running the 1.3l motor and will be til it dies!! :twisted:

Post by **greg** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:24 pm

camo wrote:my bad i did mean super swamper's
bogger's would be nice but at 14'' wide i just dont think the zook will handle it

still running the 1.3l motor and will be til it dies!!

Comon mate - 14 inches of tyre would be awesome :cool:

Running the 1.3 for as long as it lasted was my plan too - sadly that plan was executed much faster than i had expected

Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:23 pm

33 boggers work ok on a zook. Depending on the terrain you drive, you will get good at changing cv's and rear axles

Post by **camo** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:43 pm

the way i drive boggers are going to be to much traction

the guys up here call me "hans solo" because i reach light speed preety often
i sort of like a bit of the throttle action :twisted:

and with out changing axles i think i will do enough damage

Post by **greg** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:30 pm

camo wrote:the guys up here call me "hans solo" because i reach light speed preety often

Are you sure it's a suzuki you own?

Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:59 pm

greg wrote:
camo wrote:the guys up here call me "hans solo" because i reach light speed preety often

Are you sure it's a suzuki you own?

i thought he may have been letting us in on his sex life

Post by **camo** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:13 pm

nah the guys i was out 4x4ing with that night where a bit of a bunch of pussies and the name has just stuck since then!!

nothing to do with the sex life!! :oops:

Post by **greg** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 10:20 am

Got those boggers yet Camo?

Post by **camo** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 11:03 am

yeah will probly go the swappers 34x9.5x15

will order monday!! :lol:

Post by **greg** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 2:30 pm

camo wrote:yeah will probly go the swappers 34x9.5x15

will order monday!!

34x9.5x15?????!!!

Are you sure that will work?

Post by **camo** » Sat Nov 22, 2003 10:56 am

yeah its a bit risky!!,but some guys on this board run them and love them.
:lol:

Post by **greg** » Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:10 pm

camo wrote:yeah will probly go the swappers 34x9.5x15

will order monday!!

Well Camo, here we are at COB monday - how did you go?

Post by **zuker1500** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:29 pm

Just dragging up an old post here but has anyone actually fitted the 5.12:1 vit gears to a sierra diff before??

I belive you have to get some sort of spacer but i am not really sure.

I have 2 front diffs but not sure what else is required.

Help?

Post by **greg** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 7:50 am

I had mine installed by someone so i don't know all the details.

However, cruise to this thread for some interesting tech about how to fit them.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... php?t=8753

Cheers.

Post by **zuker1500** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:35 am

What about using the compelte rear vitara diff and going to coils in the rear??

Post by **greg** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:53 am

I'm pretty sure that the overkill aztec is/was running a complete vitara rear diff (though it was attached with 1/4 elyptic rather than coils).

One issue you may have with fitment to a sierra is that it will be a fair bit wider. (which is both good and bad i guess).

Post by **Guy** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:54 am

zuker1500 wrote:What about using the compelte rear vitara diff and going to coils in the rear??

Doable, but you need to make up for the 4 inch misnatch in the rear diff width as well as look at a CV jointed drivesgaft to help out with the compound angles created by the centred rear diff centre ..

Apart form that .. it's easy

Post by **zuker1500** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:58 am

Yeah what i was thinking,

Might be a lot harder than i originally thought!!

Post by **stephen** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 11:48 am

zuker1500 wrote:
What about using the compelte rear vitara diff and going to coils in the rear??

Doable, but you need to make up for the 4 inch misnatch in the rear diff width as well as look at a CV jointed drivesgaft to help out with the compound angles created by the centred rear diff centre ..

Apart form that .. it's easy

What about taking 4 inches off just one side of the vitara rear diff and re-splining the 1 axle. that will offset the diff centre 4" also. Then move your spring and control arm mounts to suit the sierra chassis

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