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Reduction Gears

Tech Talk for Suzuki owners.

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Post by NIK »

The Novak converter dosnt work for me been loading for 15mins now :oops:
I think 6.5s correct 33s so on road is the same as stock so 32s would be a little lower than stock??
Ive been using a different converter and a stock zook with .86 5th 1.4t/c 3.9diffs & 26" tyres works out at 106 @ 4000rpm but that dosnt sound right??
Trying to use this as a base to work out my gearing now.
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Post by 11_evl »

thankx steve.. no not a sierra

any one got 3.7 hi lux diff gears 4 sale??
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Post by BlueSuzy »

im in the process of fitting the 6.5.1 s now, yet to c wat they r gonna be like with 27"s :shock: if 30"s r still too small :shock: should be awesome off road but.... :armsup:
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Post by moose »

BlueSuzy wrote:im in the process of fitting the 6.5.1 s now, yet to c wat they r gonna be like with 27"s :shock: if 30"s r still too small :shock: should be awesome off road but.... :armsup:
it will be like a 1 speed in low range !!
take off in 5th , 7000rpm & you might hit 10kph !!! :P
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Post by GRPABT1 »

At least you will be able to smoke every gear :twisted:
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Post by NIK »

Its been posted on this thread that coilys run 4.09 diffs anyone know what 5th gear is? Is it .86 like earlier zooks?
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Post by mick85 »

BLUESUZI how'd u go with the fitting????? easy to do? im going to order mine next week, then when they arrive fit them up and whip down the shop and pick up my 32's :D

TELL US HOW THEY ARE :D
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Post by NIK »

Has anyone got more pics of how they have strengthend the mounting points incorporating the bolts that hold the 2 halfs of the case together?
I have strengthend mounts but want to add more support to stop the mounts ripping out of the case.
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Post by BlueSuzy »

fitted my 6.5.1 gears this week, tried them out last nite with a welded rear. all i can say is its a different car. :armsup: 5th low is slower then 1st high. i have 27's and 100kmhr on m4 = 4000revs, but i think the speedo wil be out so i need to find a late model car on 100 and sit next to it :lol: Now braking down rocks is faster then driving down them in low 1st. It pretty much drives itself.

Things i absolute needed for the 6.5.1 TrailGears

* Rattle gun (For the flange nuts)

* Bearing puller (For the flanges)

* Air Grinder/ Barrel grinder (For the casing cos gears hit)

* Bench press (For the bearings, gears etc)

* General sockets/spanners 10mm,12mm (For the casing bolts)

* Screwdriver (For various dutys, Seals etc)

* Oh and the missus to pull the gear nob off and select the gears when undooing the driveshaft 14mm nuts :lol:

* Then i had to take 1 mount off the transfer under the car cos my zorst hit, the little 1.

* And you need to be bit strong, for some ppl the transfer could be heavy when lowering out of the car
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Post by NIK »

Any ideas on coily 5th gear ratio?
Swap out my 4.16 t/c fpr a stocker while I rebuild it with the new 6.5gears.
Took it for a spin round the block and was suprised how it went. With 33s and 4.8gears its the same as 26s and 3.9s. It was a bit more sluggish when acelerating without down shifting even with the webered 1600. And in 5th at 4000rpm I was only keeping up with cars in the 80 zone but who knows what speed they were doing but my speedo said 120.
With the 4.16 t/c it accelerates uphill towinga trailer I reckon it would struggle now.
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Post by mick85 »

sooooo worth the cash??? hows offroad capability?
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Post by BlueSuzy »

for me, yes, for certain stuff full grip rock etc. because of baby tyres u still need speed but to pop onto rocks, but need a locker get the most out of them. with decent, bigger tyres they should b awesome. considering ive had some quotes for rockhoppers s3 for 1200 no warranty. tg has lifetime, but if they break u have to post the back. i also got a bearing kit with mine.
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Post by mick85 »

how much delivered to your door? did you email or phone them?

they sound good and the price appears to be great, although are the 6.5's just for crawling rocks etc or will acceptably run well offroad as well yes?

gwagensteve im looking in ur direction for help as well!!

i know the 6.5's are better for running 32/33 tyres but would the 4.9's be any good - argh so confused!
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Post by Spike_Sierra »

the 4.9's will be more the enough off and on road, the are damn low.
it was 800 to my door delivered.
Call this number 001118018056644 that is a direct line to lowrange staff.
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Post by Gwagensteve »

I'm not the best person to ask because I seem to always be looking to go slower.

I love my 6.5's, but if I wasn't always trying to play on steep stuff and taking silly lines I'm sure less gearing would be OK too.

I would say that any crawl ratio above 60:1 will feel pretty good - so 4.9's in a stock WT give 66.1. I;ve driven cars at around this sort of ratio and they're fine, especially with around a 31" tyre and with a 1.3 or bigger.

I'm at 107:1 and will have 136:1 when I'm done.... fingers crossed that's be low enough- that gearing will only be good for 40 km/h at 6500rpm in 5th low, so for "general" use it's way too low.
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Post by BlueSuzy »

you can just email the order through as i did, athough it says not to :lol: i just made a paypal account as well. 2 easy! :armsup:
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Post by mick85 »

i emailed them 2 days ago and still got no reply yet :(
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Post by Low Range »

mick85 wrote:i emailed them 2 days ago and still got no reply yet :(
PM Sent

You guys can also PM me from here if you want.
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Post by fool_injected »

Low Range wrote:
mick85 wrote:i emailed them 2 days ago and still got no reply yet :(
PM Sent

You guys can also PM me from here if you want.
Now that's service :)
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Post by mick85 »

Low Range wrote:
mick85 wrote:i emailed them 2 days ago and still got no reply yet :(
PM Sent

You guys can also PM me from here if you want.
PM'd u back Lowrange :)
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Post by 11_evl »

mick85 wrote:
Low Range wrote:
mick85 wrote:i emailed them 2 days ago and still got no reply yet :(
PM Sent

You guys can also PM me from here if you want.
PM'd u back Lowrange :)
thats great service and a good idea. why didnt he think of that 2 weeks ago when i put my order in :D :D
all good thankx again sean
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Post by v840 »

Guys, just to reiterate, NOW is a great time to be buying gears from the states. I just got my 6.5's from lowrangeoffroad.com for $680 to my door. :armsup: The exchange rate will not be this good forever so dont wait too long.


Sean from lowrange was fantastic to deal with and bent over backwards to help with all my enquiries, I cannot fault the price of the customer service. Will definitely be dealing with them again. Thanks heaps guys :cool:
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Post by mick85 »

thats it im ringing him!! so over internet and not being able to get in touch! i want them NOW :P
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Post by bulldogy »

Guys if you are after the 6.5 low range gears go to our website and click the contact page and we can sort you out with a good price compatibale with prices from Lowrange.
You wont have to wait more than 24hrs for a reply
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Post by Low Range »

Hello all, glad to see the gears are all working out well for everyone.

Just wanted to let everyone now that we no longer charge Paypal fees and will take credit cards for Australian orders.

Also wanted to let you know we now have a cheaper option to ship that seems to be just as fast as before and can get a gear kit shipped to you for under $50.00US. That makes a 6.5 gears set about $595.00AU shipped.

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Post by Low Range »

Forgot to mention we are now carrying the Calmini 5.14 gears as well
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Post by zook7177 »

got 6.5 gears and the mighty kong transfer case mount off santa :lol: for my zook to go with the twin lockrites and 31" claws :D , i have never pulled a transfer case apart but have rebuilt many motors. :?: Is it worth having a go myself?? :?: besides a press what else do i need to get??
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Post by GRPABT1 »

Give it a go yourself. I am and haven't rebuilt any motors lol. Apparently you don't need a press and can get away without it. Download the instructions off the calmini website, they are pretty good.
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Post by want33s »

zook7177 wrote:got 6.5 gears and the mighty kong transfer case mount off santa :lol: for my zook to go with the twin lockrites and 31" claws :D , i have never pulled a transfer case apart but have rebuilt many motors. :?: Is it worth having a go myself?? :?: besides a press what else do i need to get??
If you have a press or access to one then you will only need basic hand tools. A rattle gun may be handy but I managed without one.
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Post by zook7177 »

want33s wrote:
zook7177 wrote:got 6.5 gears and the mighty kong transfer case mount off santa :lol: for my zook to go with the twin lockrites and 31" claws :D , i have never pulled a transfer case apart but have rebuilt many motors. :?: Is it worth having a go myself?? :?: besides a press what else do i need to get??
If you have a press or access to one then you will only need basic hand tools. A rattle gun may be handy but I managed without one.
i downloaded the instrustions and it look not to bad, is it as easy as it looks, i just dont want to stuff the gears up
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