35s on a LWB GQ

Post by **Ibsn** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:07 pm

ok, I have been going through this forum over and over trying to find a page where someone has been in my position, Looking at fitting 35's under a lwb gq.

Im getting 4-5 inch tough dog suspension lift. And Im told that I can fit 35s under it.

Surely someone here has done this, and Im looking to know what they did to make them fit. And im aware that you have to cut the rear 1/4. IS that all you need to do!???

Im also wondering if you can get them to fit without doing body lift. And what happens when the car is at full flex, is it ripping the shit outa the inside wheel arches?

IF you did get 35s what is the best rim and tyre size, 12.5's ???

I was also looking through members rides for anyone who had done just suspension lift and was fitting 35s and looking for advice and dos and donts... If 35s are a serious issue with fitting them in, can someone let me know before i go and spend 2 grand on rims and tyres !! are they totally a bad decision?

Does anyone have any pics/first had experience of this kinda of setup, and does anyone have info about cutting the rear quater.... with pics!??

cause i cant find any useful step by step information regarding this on the forum
cheers guys!

Post by **bogged** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:44 pm

35's are illegal in Qld if that bothers you..

plenty of members rigs with 35's fitted

fit them up and see where it doesnt clear, you have mentioned the first issues.

what suspension kit are you going with, you need more than just 4 springs and shocks.

if your going to trim, go 3in lift and trim. lower the truck is the mroe stable it is

Post by **Ibsn** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:57 pm

Was looking at 4-5inch adjustable stage 4 kit from superior - which includes all the adjustable panhards and arms etc, With coil drop outs. and No body lift. http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/p ... ts_id=2780

I was only told I would need to cut the rear. I have since read you may have to put spacers on the front control arms?

I have been going through this forum, and many links are old or no longer working. I am Still unable to find any detailed guard cut pics and steps, and issues.

I hate asking questions on forums, as you get the usual reply's - "use search" yada yada if every time someone asks. Search will return results with people telling others to search... But If people didn't ask questions, you wouldn't have answers, therefor you wouldn't have a forum.

Thanks for the advice. The reason I ask about 35s, is that im more specifically targeting someone who was in my shoes and went ahead with it, or changed their mind and went for 33's. Or did the rear 1/4 with 35's and haven't had a problem since?

I wasnt fully aware they were illegal either.

Post by **blackmav** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:05 pm

I have a 5 inch TD kit that has sagged over 3 odd years to 4 inch.
I run 35inch Miockey Thompson MTZs.
No body lift.
Radius arms spaced forward 15mm.
Landcruiser offset rims.
No rear quarter cut.
Lots of rear wheel tuck with no extended bumpstops.
A bit of rubbing in the rear wheelarch.
Cut the 6th and 7th seat, seat belt nuts off abit out of the rear wheelarch so they dont destroy the tyres on full tuck.
Adjustable panards.

Easy. Set and forget.

Post by **micks troll** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:35 pm

This is a shot off my mtr which is nearly dead, tucked in the gaurd. It is only a 33 and is small for it's size. I run 4" king springs, 30mm spring spacers and 30mm body lift. I'll be cutting and putting longer bumpstops on to go bigger soon!

Post by **g4cube** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:39 pm

I have a sagged 4" lift and run the 35's fine some rubbing in the guards i extended the bump stops and run cruiser rims 15x8 works fine but it still touches. On the front it touches some but radius spacers for me would make it worse. A body lift would help as would making the car sits level all around my panhards need to be aligned so that is not helping me.

Post by **Ibsn** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:04 pm

hrmm ok, sounds like most people here are getting them to kinda fit with just lift. And not a real whole lot more... Im also told that some 35s are much bigger then other 35's. I dont know how you can really figure that out, unless you speak to a tire shop who know what they are talking about i guess?

on another note, what rim and tire sizes (35x ???) are people running to make them fit? I'm guessing you wouldn't want anything too wide!

Post by **bogged** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:22 pm

Tires, rims questions on tires and rims - one stop only - Ryano at Fourbys in Someroota or some place. Im sure search will find him.
Best prices, and best service.

Post by **micks troll** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:43 pm

I know swampers and simex et2's and jt2s are a tall tyre as putting them up against the Mtrs the Mtrs are at least an inch smaller in overall diameter also radial claws are small too if this helps at all. ( these were all run on 15x8 cruiser offset rims) as is the pic above. I dont see the purpose in limiting the upward travel hence i havent put extended bump stop on yet but may be necessary for 35s. I wish to run q78s

for my next set so if i dont have it cut into a ute by then then i'll massage the gaurds a bit and do bump stops.

Post by **Z()LTAN** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:56 pm

thats all great mick but your rims have bugger all offset.

lots of people are gettin around on 15x10x5.5BSP rims now days

they are great for the wide track but make the tires hit the guards earlier and a hella lot more

Post by **Ibsn** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:35 pm

so is what your saying here, that the cruiser rim offset, is a bad choice in the wagon scenario?

not 100% sure whether or not you guys are saying that I should be looking at getting offset rims in my situation?

And if not, what would be the wise/experienced choice of rim to buy?

Post by **eighty8** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:55 pm

Ibsn wrote:Im also told that some 35s are much bigger then other 35's. I dont know how you can really figure that out, !

try searching the manufacture web sites, they pretty much all have size /dimension charts available.

A couple of examples below
cheers

http://www.goodyeartires.com/goodyearti ... ight+Truck

http://www.simex4x4.com/html/s02_articl ... =55&dsb=55

Post by **bogged** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:39 pm

Ibsn wrote:so is what your saying here, that the cruiser rim offset, is a bad choice in the wagon scenario?

not 100% sure whether or not you guys are saying that I should be looking at getting offset rims in my situation?

And if not, what would be the wise/experienced choice of rim to buy?

Ryano.

Post by **Suspension Stuff** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:21 am

bogged wrote:35's are illegal in Qld if that bothers you..

plenty of members rigs with 35's fitted

Just about everything is illegal in Queensland for 4WD's.
Anything over a 2" lift and 15mm in the tyres but we seem to get away with 33" tyres as long as they are within the guards.

You cannot get a lift engineered for over a 2" lift no matter what. This should change though by the end of the year; we hope.

Because the laws are so tight with no room for mods even if you intend to make it a safer vehicle, most people just do what they want and wing it.

So do what you want but keep them within the guards so you don't draw attention to yourself.

Shane

Post by **GUJohnno** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:08 am

Ibsn wrote:so is what your saying here, that the cruiser rim offset, is a bad choice in the wagon scenario?

15x8" cruiser offset is the perfect choice for you and ideal for the 33x12.5" & 35x12.5" tyres.
There will be a few on here that use bigger rims or tyres but these sizes are the most common and suit 99% of us.

Johnno.

Post by **old smokey** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:46 am

i used to run 35's m117 with 2 inch body 2 inch susp. with no guard chop didnt hit at all

Post by **Ibsn** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:48 pm

I appreciate everyones input, knowing the specific rim size and tire size, and the links to the manufacturer's specific tire diameter answer exactly what i've been looking for. And knowing the setups that have worked!

And knowing that people first hand have run 35's on their gq, without having to modify anything drastically allowing for the occasional guard massage is very reassuring.

Post by **blackmav** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:11 pm

35s
4-5 inch lift
Cruiser offset
NO BUMPSTOPS
No mudflaps
Heavy duty lower arms that are same length as standard

A bit of rubbin.

Post by **blkmav** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:14 pm

blackmav wrote:

That's a lot of lead to balance the tyre. I have about that much on my JT2s. Are they all like that?

Post by **blackmav** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:19 pm

blkmav wrote:
blackmav wrote:
That's a lot of lead to balance the tyre. I have about that much on my JT2s. Are they all like that?

I had one that was worse. Got it exchanged for a new one.
1 @ 50grms
1 @ 70gms
1 @ 120gms
1 @ 115

Post by **Suspension Stuff** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:50 pm

My MTZ's still didn't balance up properly. Maybe they don't make them round.

Shane

Post by **love ke70** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:14 pm

its just poor forming of the tyre, too much weight on the one side, and it can accentuated when the wheel and they tyre both have a heavy side, and they end up on the same side.

i like the vibrations, they make me feel loved

Post by **Nelso** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:48 pm

2" lift and 35s. No cutting, he just took all the plastic off and lightly tapped the metal where it touched.

Post by **jtraf** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:05 pm

I run 3in lifted springs 30mm bump stop spaces in the rear and radius arms 10mm spacers in the front and run 34/11.5/15 Simex JT2's

I had to remove the front mud flaps but the rest is factory wide pack gear.....this will make way soon as the rear mud flaps are getting caned from being bent back offroad....

I prefer to keep my Trol low as possible as it is the wifes DD.

Post by **MPRZIV** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:21 am

Nelso wrote:2" lift and 35s. No cutting, he just took all the plastic off and lightly tapped the metal where it touched.

Man thats looks tuff as. I have a lwb gq and was looking at getting 35's i have a 2inch suspension lift and thought i would have to go higher but if you say thats all he has done may have to give it a go

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