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What to "soak" AFM in?

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What to "soak" AFM in?

Post by high n mighty »

My AFM needs a good clean, contact cleaner didn't do the job and I know of someone who took their prado to a toyota dealership who apparently soaked his AFM which brought it back to spec increasing power which by all means should bring economy back.


So what to "soak" the AFM in is the question considering it is cased in plastic.
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Post by PGS 4WD »

I spray them with carby clean

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Post by high n mighty »

Can I soak it in carby clean without damaging it? The type that comes in a normal tin(not a spray).
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Post by high n mighty »

I put a whole can of carby cleaner through it today until the writing was off the stickers and the rubber seal went soft. I put it back in with some silastic just incase air has been aso getting past the seal.


I might be joshing myself but it feels kinda different, doesn't seem to take as much right boot to get off the line or sit at the speed limit :?

No power difference when I put the pedal to the floor though :?
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Post by r0ck_m0nkey »

high n mighty wrote:I might be joshing myself but it feels kinda different, doesn't seem to take as much right boot to get off the line or sit at the speed limit :?
That's about how mine felt after cleaning. Full throttle not a great deal difference, but response in the first half of the throttle improved noticably. Also a lot smoother in the gear changes.
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Post by PGS 4WD »

It does work as the element gets coated with crap this effects the heating of it which is how the ECU works out fuel calculation.

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Post by high n mighty »

I also noticed that the near new air filter was filled with sand. I guess the snokel must be right in the line of fire unlike my lux....


I will replace it though the week, if memory serves me the 17ltr per hundred was just after I put this filter in.


Don't get me wrong, it is still very free flowing but I will throw one in and see if it comes down again :?
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Post by MightyMouse »

CRC make a specific cleaner for a MAF.

CRC MAF Cleaner

Have no idea if it works or is advisable to do but ....
( usual disclaimers )

It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
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Post by HotFourOk »

Just soak it in petrol, then metho to dry it out :D
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Post by mud4b »

HotFourOk wrote:Just soak it in petrol, then metho to dry it out :D

i hope your joking?
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Post by Ruffy »

mud4b wrote:
HotFourOk wrote:Just soak it in petrol, then metho to dry it out :D

i hope your joking?
X2


As joel said, Carby clean is fine. Or a carbon/throttle body cleaner. You shouldn't need to 'soak it' and it would probably be a good idea not to 'soak' the eletrics. All you need to do is clean the hot wire in the middle of the sensor. DONOT attempt to touch or wipe the hot wire. just spray.
The AFM will work for partial throttle applications, most Engine management systems have predetermined values for Wide Open Throttle (WOT) application and hardly rely on AFM response as economy is not an issue if your driving WOT so injector pulse and ignition timing will increase to predetermined values and things like AFM and O2 sensor become asthetic pretty much.
That explains why you may notice an improvement in throttle response from start off etc.
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Post by high n mighty »

Ruffy wrote:
mud4b wrote:
HotFourOk wrote:Just soak it in petrol, then metho to dry it out :D

i hope your joking?
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As joel said, Carby clean is fine. Or a carbon/throttle body cleaner. You shouldn't need to 'soak it' and it would probably be a good idea not to 'soak' the eletrics. All you need to do is clean the hot wire in the middle of the sensor. DONOT attempt to touch or wipe the hot wire. just spray.
The AFM will work for partial throttle applications, most Engine management systems have predetermined values for Wide Open Throttle (WOT) application and hardly rely on AFM response as economy is not an issue if your driving WOT so injector pulse and ignition timing will increase to predetermined values and things like AFM and O2 sensor become asthetic pretty much.
That explains why you may notice an improvement in throttle response from start off etc.
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So you are saying that even if it feels like it has made a difference the fuel usage won't have changed?? Just a reference note, the wire isn't clearly visible on a prado afm, I'm no mechanic but I havent seen such an enclosed one before.


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Post by Dexter »

No, he is saying you should see a fuel difference as the car will now be getting a better reading while at cruise(part throttle). The car ignores the AFM and EGO sensors at WOT(Wide Open Throttle).
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Post by high n mighty »

Ahh good stuff, new air filter can only help too. Anyone wanna buy a fuel efficent prado :armsup:


I'm kinda serious, it is outta here in a couple of weeks :D
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Post by HotFourOk »

mud4b wrote:
HotFourOk wrote:Just soak it in petrol, then metho to dry it out :D

i hope your joking?
What? I did that to mine after I used the sand for the port polishing :D


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Post by KaMo »

Soooooooo.....Any difference to fuel economy Craig?
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